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		<title>Talk:Silent Devotion</title>
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		<updated>2013-03-03T04:38:13Z</updated>

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== Stevieo said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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MASTER PEACE!!GLORY BE THE &amp;quot;CREATION&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Stevieo|Stevieo]] 05:45, 19 May 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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.......................SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH everybody silent devotion. :) I like. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:56, 19 May 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Silently devoted to the truth I shall continue onward in knowledge, wisdom, and life. When there is silence a sort of, call of eternity can be heard, in the mind of someone who is truly living life for spirit, who knows rather than believes the actual truth. Now that I know and feel the truth within me, I shall live my life in the creational, truly to my fullest potential, until this life is at an end. Perhaps through great knowledge obtained in this incarnation, the truth may be found quickly in the next life, that the truth shall be known at an earlier age, that I may do the most good for my fellow human beings ,through vast knowledge of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
Silently devoted to the truth I remain, until I feel a calling of my BEING to a new seeker of truth, perhaps right next to me, perhaps far away, that is waiting for me or another of truth, to grant them an opportunity, to know the infinite, ever-present truth within life and love in Creation.&lt;br /&gt;
Saalome gam naan ben uurda gan njjber assala hesperona00&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] ([[User talk:Acriasis|talk]]), U.S.A.,  04:38, 3 March 2013 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Clarification of a Defamatory Claim</title>
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		<updated>2012-12-01T07:55:38Z</updated>

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== alexander awadzi said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have read the living words of teaching from mr. Billy Meier. The teaching of Billy are not from this earth. They are spiritual teaching which norrish the mind and spirit. I thank mr. Billy so much for his effort and time to open the truth to mankind on earth. Thank you for more than a billion times.&lt;br /&gt;
The teaching of Billy will be known by all human beings. &lt;br /&gt;
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Praise be to Creation.&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Awadzi&lt;br /&gt;
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--alexander awadzi 00:03, 30 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mark said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where do these people come from claiming he&#039;s Jesus Christ? They must come from the stone age or further back. :) Just have a good laugh and move on, these aren&#039;t the droids we&#039;re looking for. &lt;br /&gt;
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--Mark 00:41, 30 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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William youre definately not the only one to make mistakes! Its all part of evolution though so its fine/ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TheTruth said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow this is beyond fabrication. I love how to deflect critisim you try to say every other religion is false. That Jesus never exsisted, &amp;amp; some character Billy Meier made up to sell some books is the real prophet. Likewise the idea that mohammad was the reincarnation of this so-called real jesus is totally bogus. Have you ever read any holy books? I&#039;ve studied religion for yrs and your ideas are off the wall. Would the reincarnated self try to go to war with your past tribes? Seems highly unlikely. Also muslims think of all christians as infiedels. Not my idea of a glowing peaceful prophet. Again this site is just telling a huge amount of lies to move books and silly tapes. Highly shameful for Billy as our great prophet of the times.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:TheTruth|TheTruth]] 23:47, 25 June 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sarah said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So wait, people actually believe that Billy claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus? O_o I honestly can&#039;t see how one could make the comparison. Isnt the fictional Jesus just a distortion?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 16:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Zameen said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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@truth-You need to read so mich more before saying such things. Dont worry though, all of the information I&#039;m suggesting is all free. The only thing you need to spend is some time reading. Maybe you&#039;ll figure it out, maybe your not ready, who knows&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 19:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, if Billy was Jmmanuel in a past life, and Jesus was a made up distorted story based off of Jmmanuel, How is it that Billy was not Jesus? Can&#039;t we just say that Jesus was a false distorted character based off of Jmmanuel who Billy was in a past life? &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 08:28, 2 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus is a delusionally invented and idolized cult-figure, who is supposedly also the son of god and god himself. Billy simply does not want to be associated with anything like this.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 12:52, 2 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sanjin for the reply. That is what I figured. I was just asking because I know people who feel that something similar to the Jesus story occurred so I provided them with the Jmmanuel alternative and wanted to make sure that I had not misunderstood something.&lt;br /&gt;
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I also do not feel that it is right to answer &amp;quot;Was Billy Jesus in a past life?&amp;quot; with a simple no. I say this because people might be asking to try to find the truth behind the Jesus story and would be better to say that he was not Jesus but rather Jmmanuel who was falsely named Jesus and his teachings distored.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 23:14, 6 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If one looks in the Old Testament there is one sentence that states Jmmanuel as the being the one and only true prophet at that time. But in the New Testament which I believe was influenced to a large degree by the evil Giza Intelligences to replace the Old Testament, but specially to replace Jmmanuel with the falsified non-existent personality of Jesus Christ for several very important reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all by substituting a non-existent personality for Jmmanuel, the Christian religions now have to worship this fallacy imposter, thus negating everything the true prophet Jmmanuel has brought forward and all things connected to Jesus Christ are now voided because thoughts and prayers are energy related and directed to this non-existing idea is like a black hole which gobbles up this energy into nothing. Thus praying to Jesus Christ or even thinking about this ruse is uncreational in nature because it benefits no one but the clergy and church that enslave the spiritual evolution of its members who participate in such nonsense. Such behavior is parasitic and un-creational.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another important goal of creating this fallacy is to make the so called “resurrection” of Jesus Christ from the dead into a living material being once again who actually transcends this material world directly into a god or creator of the universe, thus making it virtually impossible for any human being to evolve spiritually because this “evolution” idea is not only illogical but violates the basic principles of creational laws by declaring that now there is only one god and only through him (Jesus Christ) can mankind find salvation.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in essence the creation of this Jesus Christ is to make “him” the god of creation a monopoly reserved exclusively for him only, therefore everyone else are to remain servitude and enslaved by this concept forever, what a ruse. All the Giza Intelligence were removed from Earth and banished on a prison planet millions of light years away by the Plejarens and are all dead awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata pure spiritual level.&lt;br /&gt;
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So that leaves the clergy, church, Pope and other religious cronies which they constantly preaching fallacy and fear to the masses in order to remain in power. It is only the ignorant and those too lazy to think for themselves who fall victim to this nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:48, 7 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It makes sense Hawaiian.&lt;br /&gt;
What do you mean though that the Giza-Intelligence would be awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata? Is there any mention of such an ability in the material? I ask out of interest. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 07:54, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Epicin21,&lt;br /&gt;
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All 2100 or so Gizas who were arrested and shipped off to a prison planet many millions of light years distance physically passed away and await incarnation. There are other Contact Reports and direct questions and answers from FIGU members to Billy in regards to incarnation including questions on whether pure spiritual forms also incarnate, you need to do the research yourself to your satisfaction. The link below implies that the Arahat Athersata level is responsible for incarnation of spirit forms into material human beings. The case of Nokodemjion was speacial because his spirit form was already in the Arahat Athersata and needed further assistance from the Petale level (7th spiritual level) in order to incarnate back into a physical human being.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nokodemjon incarnation process from pure spiritual Arahat Athersata to material human being&lt;br /&gt;
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Contact Report 238  http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238&lt;br /&gt;
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689. And thus the order and decree was passed, through the engagement of the Arahat Athersata level, that those who passed away in the course of time to a natural death should not be ordained a reincarnation, rather that their spirit forms had to stay as long in the realm of the other side until they, one day, through a new decree of Nokodemion, could again find an existence in human bodies.&lt;br /&gt;
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697. I know that the terrestrial scientists and researchers are in error in this regard, as much as in many other things. &lt;br /&gt;
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As he then entered the transitional level of the fluctuating material state at the age of 58,000,000,000 years, he created there, through spiritual potency, a further people, after which he seemingly spent precisely 2,000,000,000 years in the transitional level.&lt;br /&gt;
Thereafter he remained for a further 4,000,000,000 years in that level, after which he shifted in a rapid manner and entered the Arahat Athersata level, where he remained during the next 10,000,000,000 years, before he determined, as a result of the degeneration of his begotten and created peoples, and in unanimous accord with the entire Arahat Athersata level, to change himself back into a material human life form, in order in this way to command a halt to his degenerated, criminal, usurping peoples and to bring them to reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:40, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am watching this show My Ghost Story and wondering what is going on here damnit, I thought everything is under perfect control, we have all kinds of wild spirits running around. I say bring in the army of dwarves to cleanse them out. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:46, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sheila said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Mark, from the contact notes, I would think most of that is caused by fluidal forces, teenagers seem to have a lot of it.  And don&#039;t forget that story from Billy about the person who kept seeing the ghost in her home and it was traced back to the elderly lady who used to live in that house.  Pretty awesome fluidal powers to be able to take naps and project her younger self into that house.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:26, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sheila for the fluidal update. Some of those spirits are in proper order but some are full of chaos. I wonder if they have a set of rules to abide by as well as we do. If not I have a long list after watching a couple episodes. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:32, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sheila, you&#039;re absolutely correct in your accessment of Fluidual energy being responsible for the majority of these so called &amp;quot;paranormal&amp;quot; activities. People have to remember that thoughts are also energy related to emotions and do manifest themselves as in that documented case that BEAM discribes of that lady who almost always slept at a certain time in the afternoon and constanly dreamt about being the young girl who used to live at home located in another State where she actually &amp;quot;manifested&amp;quot; herself as a young girl running out of the house which others saw as a &amp;quot;ghost&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have written a article located in the FIGU forum which is used to counter-act such forces, but not sure if I should post it here also? Ghost or &amp;quot;haunted&amp;quot; places can actually attached their energy to the emotional status of those who live or even think about these things.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:38, 17 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:37, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:38, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:38, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Lets all become a FIGU passive member and obtain the quarterly spirit lessons. Then we will be able to make a greater impact upon our brothers and sisters and the well being of all other life on our world.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 17:40, 29 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Hawaiian for the info, I will do further research as you recommended.&lt;br /&gt;
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Salome.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 07:13, 7 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moonlight said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am confused as to why the birth date of Jesus Christ, in comparison with that of Jmmanuel is given as December 24th here, when it is known and celebrated in most parts of the world as December 25th. Pls clarify.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Moonlight|Moonlight]] ([[User talk:Moonlight|talk]]), guam,  14:51, 24 September 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Moonlight,&lt;br /&gt;
There are other places to find out more about the information you seek right here on this website, as well as FIGU. Perhaps this link will help:&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_7&lt;br /&gt;
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the whole explanation is very informative, and knowledge about December 24th is given starting about #170.&lt;br /&gt;
As far as The 25th of December it seems, that is the first day of the new life, if you follow the religious background&lt;br /&gt;
Saalome &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] ([[User talk:Acriasis|talk]]), U.S.A.,  07:55, 1 December 2012 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_136&amp;diff=19302</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 136</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_136&amp;diff=19302"/>
		<updated>2012-09-23T22:47:26Z</updated>

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== Mark said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I have solved the financial burden, remember the Asket vacation tour when she utilized the material changing device that transforms objects to similar coinage or gold of earth. Billy could have a fort knox over at the center and purchase all the businesses and run the world peacefully. :) j/k&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--Mark 04:34, 31 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bigfoot said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dream on Mark...&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 06:23, 5 August 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mrnorm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
in the  summer of 1975 i wrote about the assassination attempt on Ronald Regain&#039;s life,  after giving a  speech from a podium and on his way to his car, there  thire would be and attemp on his life and he would not die... i wrote many other perdictions at that time and sealed it in an envelope... and i knew then as i know today no one would beleave that i did such a thing, execpt for a few, but i did this and have had many visions since that have come true,but what the hay...&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 20:49, 11 October 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mrnorm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
billy could of fix his money problems if he would of gotten some help from ET   by finding lost gold that would of never ever of been found no other way except by the help from the out side world,and then invested it GE or Philleps or HP back in 1975&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 20:59, 11 October 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Egyptian army had been bought by Israeli. Israeli army had been bought by American. American army had been bought by British. British army had been bought by Russian. Russian army had been bought by Chinese. Chinese army sold themselves to anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:50, 5 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
And yet the barbaric nature of humans continues, as it has in the past, even as far back as the first inhabitants of this planet, in truly ancient times. These world leaders all seem to have a dark aggresive nature causing them to seek whom to conquer, in their quest for power and/or what country has the resources they want. In so doing many innocent people are harmed or even killed by these negative influences within those of power over the people. Thoughts are a powerful thing and when they are strong enough, through a great many peoples negative thoughts, catyclismic events can occur such as, earthquakes, flooding, extreme weather, even volcanic eruptions, caused by the evil thoughts and actions of those thirsty for greed, and domination of Earth and her peoples. It is good to know that there are positive influences coming about through the Peace Meditation, which has helped to avert some of these catyclysmic events and overall negative influence on this planet. Even after true reality is known to all people of Earth, perhaps far into the future, there unfortunately, will still be falible ones trying to gain power through their overall lust to dominate the lesser advanced people not aware of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] ([[User talk:Acriasis|talk]]), U.S.A.,  23:47, 23 September 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_018&amp;diff=19219</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 018</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_018&amp;diff=19219"/>
		<updated>2012-09-10T06:25:20Z</updated>

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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe this is why people said that spiritual teaching is the most important thing of Billy&#039;s materials. They repeat Semiase&#039;s words without searching what the most important for them is, what interests them most.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 15:17, 26 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
True to that Alive, what good is to just para-phrase these Creational materials without utilizing or connecting its meaning to one&#039;s own attributes? Although in the pure spiritual realms all spirits are connected, they are still evolving as a unique entity, but also as a whole with others at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a material Being, each needs to inter-connect with their past personalities deriving its accumulated knowledge and experiences by accessing the memory banks in order to evolve into higher planes/frequencies until the spirit no longer needs a physical body to continue evolving and accumulating more experiences and knowledge not just within its unique attributes, but also being connected to others at the same or slightly higher evolutionary stages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But before attempting this endeavor, one must be disciplined enough through proper concentration via meditation in order to administer these various experiences so that harmony and balance between the positive/negative forces are ensured in order to remain in harmonic equilibrium that promotes further evolution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spritual evolution is the MOST important endeavor for every intelligent Being or BEING, for its a realm where all that was, is or will be, are merged first as ONE, then further merges with other ONEs until Absolute creates more ones to continue the process forever, each contributing to the whole so that the whole also evolves each time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:55, 26 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creation summarized for Earth humans with short attention spans as everything and anything being neither material or spirit only,rather encompassing all times otherwise timeless and enduring. Thanks.................. Semjase and Billy.:)j/k&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:10, 26 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A true reality unfolds within your being when you least expect it. Many things of the material life will cause yo to stumble down the road of destuction. Your inner self. that fragment of Creation within, will lead you back through the infinite spirit force of might. Your spirit knows  the path of truth, unfortunately sometimes your phsyical life keeps getting in the way through addictions, untruth, negative thoughts and influences of people following a path of self-destuction. Contained within yourself is an immortal being that has lived  thousands if not millions of years, and has all the knowledge of your past existences that was gained, for you to use within the present incarnation. When you recognize your fragment of Creation within yourself, you begin to change your world around you in such a way that it is noticed by others around you. Do bear in mind that this path of truth is not an easy path. It is full of great negativity and distress at times, that can be overcome by putting into practice knowledge that is gained. Your transformation in this sacred reality happens the more accepting you are of the transformation within. Each day that unfolds can bring new knowledge unknown before from within. There are many others on this path of transistional awareness also learning new knowledge each day. A love can be found for all things if it is in truth. Not a &amp;quot;touchy&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;feel good&amp;quot; kind of love, a creational kind of love that is infinitely beautiful, kind of like the most beautiful creature or event you have ever witnessed in your life, a creational kind of love. Listen to your spirit within, in a neutral type of thought, your spirit knows the ways of creational existence in your true reality...&lt;br /&gt;
-Saalome-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] ([[User talk:Acriasis|talk]]), U.S.A.,  07:25, 10 September 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Bosnian_pyramids&amp;diff=19127</id>
		<title>Talk:Bosnian pyramids</title>
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		<updated>2012-09-08T01:40:46Z</updated>

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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A few years ago, I came across some information about some supposed pyramidal like structures termed &amp;quot;The Bosnian Pyramids&amp;quot;, which claims to be the largest pyramid ever built. It was discovered near the town of Visoko, Bosnia northwest of Sarajevo, Bosnia, by a man named Senir Osmanagic. He claims that it was possibly built between 12,000 - 500 B.C., built by ancient Illyrian inhabitants of the Balkans. He calls the &#039;Great Pyramid&#039;, &amp;quot;The Pyramid of the Sun&amp;quot; which is called Viscocia Hill locally, claiming it to be &amp;quot;The Mother of all Pyramids&amp;quot;. he also claims it to possibly  be 220 meters high which would make the pyramid one third taller than The Great Pyramid of Giza. Semir also claims to have found evidence at this site of a paved entrance plateau and tunnels, as well as stone blocks and ancient mortar, which he claims once covered the structure. He has also claimed to have found other pyramidal like structures nearby, calling one of them &amp;quot;The Pyramid of the Moon&amp;quot;. He seems to also have evidence of heiroglypics and stone molds of hand tools contained within the Great Pyramid. He has also supposedly discovered great stone balls, some several feet in diameter, near this Great Pyramid. If anyone can clarify  this information please post your comment here or contact me at: acriasis@yahoo.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 15:46, 7 September 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I know, most of what you said is true. But I highly doubt that it was the Illyrian&#039;s who built them. It is quite likely that they used them though. Right now it is still a mystery who actually built them. The pyramids were probably built a lot earlier than 12,000 - 500 B.C., just like the Egyptian pyramids. I think that most of what the Plejaren stated about the Egyptian pyramids relates to the Bosnian pyramids also.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The official website of the Bosnian pyramids can be found at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
www.piramidasunca.ba&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s where most of the information can be verified also.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 20:21, 7 September 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for you response Sanjin, and yes I did visit the Pyramida Sunca website. It contains a wealth of knowledge about this subject. There was also some other web posts about an energy beam coming from the top of the &#039;Great Pyramid&#039; and some computer generated models of what the pyramid could have looked like in its prime. It would be interesting as to what the Plejaren would know about these structures, so as to not fill peoples ears with disinformation other than what truths have been discovered by the archaeologists.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] ([[User talk:Acriasis|talk]]),  02:40, 8 September 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Bosnian_pyramids&amp;diff=19094</id>
		<title>Talk:Bosnian pyramids</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Bosnian_pyramids&amp;diff=19094"/>
		<updated>2012-09-07T14:46:31Z</updated>

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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A few years ago, I came across some information about some supposed pyramidal like structures termed &amp;quot;The Bosnian Pyramids&amp;quot;, which claims to be the largest pyramid ever built. It was discovered near the town of Visoko, Bosnia northwest of Sarajevo, Bosnia, by a man named Senir Osmanagic. He claims that it was possibly built between 12,000 - 500 B.C., built by ancient Illyrian inhabitants of the Balkans. He calls the &#039;Great Pyramid&#039;, &amp;quot;The Pyramid of the Sun&amp;quot; which is called Viscocia Hill locally, claiming it to be &amp;quot;The Mother of all Pyramids&amp;quot;. he also claims it to possibly  be 220 meters high which would make the pyramid one third taller than The Great Pyramid of Giza. Semir also claims to have found evidence at this site of a paved entrance plateau and tunnels, as well as stone blocks and ancient mortar, which he claims once covered the structure. He has also claimed to have found other pyramidal like structures nearby, calling one of them &amp;quot;The Pyramid of the Moon&amp;quot;. He seems to also have evidence of heiroglypics and stone molds of hand tools contained within the Great Pyramid. He has also supposedly discovered great stone balls, some several feet in diameter, near this Great Pyramid. If anyone can clarify  this information please post your comment here or contact me at: acriasis@yahoo.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 15:46, 7 September 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_185&amp;diff=19066</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 185</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_185&amp;diff=19066"/>
		<updated>2012-08-29T22:13:06Z</updated>

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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If human beings would only reach out and take hold of the unconditional love that surrounds them, within theirselves each day, one may find that absolute knowledge can come to the one who seeks wisdom in truth. Each person, out of their own  free-will, chooses a negative path each day, they are seperated from the eternal knowledge of Creation. Only by choosing a positive path to follow the laws and commandments given of Creation, is there an unconditional love that is felt, by experiencing life to its fullest, through the power within the indwelling of Creation within ourselves, that has always been there, but not recognized, because of the material lifes distractions of consciouseness which also occur daily. It would be good if these contacts would continue as they once were, but there are so many distracted people around, as well as time continueing to progress age and health, that it could only be acheived through public awareness of the existence of absolute truth, which would require an absolute transistion of the whole of an ignorant person of beliefs. Then even the falible ones would have no choice but to be submissive, with global awareness of absolute truth, which would dissolve the belief system indefinitely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 04:28, 29 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creational attributes are logically designed to promote proper evolutionary results through its harmonic parameters of distance, time and dimensional differences amongst the various species that inhabit the universes. However there are some who do not adhere to creational standards and unfortunately inspire to circumvent this harmonic process and create all sorts of problems, not just for themselves but others as well because they have not learned to control their barbaric tendencies such as self ego destructiveness and the persecution of others who do not agree on their degenerative activities which continues to this very day including interferences from the future to promote their negative agendas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is through technology which is often abused to fulfill their degenerative activities upon those who are often powerless to resist such interferences because they lack the technology or understanding of the truth at hand and are often persecuted with threats and death from those in power to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore as was done in the past, it is not just the material Beings who are the ones to enforce the harmonic attributes of creational reality, but also those who are at the Arahat Athersata level who controls which spirit form incarnates or not and also those of the transitional stage between the material and non-material spiritual realms (High Council). Incarnated spirits that continue to exist at the expense of others and persecute those who strive to follow creational harmonic attributes should be separated as in the same principle of the separation of planets to ensure proper distance is maintained so that the evolutionary aspects of that particular planet is afforded the necessary environment to evolve on their own without interferences from other more advanced technological beings who intrude and cause a host of problems as witnessed by historical records of Earthly existence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Both a parasitic spiritual incarnation and those that strive for harmonic endeavors cannot exist on the same planet and need to be separated in order for both to co-exist without endangering the other’s evolutionary development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 22:38, 29 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Earth is like a mixture of all ingredients and no one separated the appetizer, main course, and dessert. Damn, we now have a mess of kitchen in terms of skill and efficiency. Everyone wants to be the head chef but only a few are true leaders. A lot of people want to lead but they are more of the enslave variety. I think those types should not be incarnated in order for Earth to at least have a slight chance at a well balanced menu. Rather than all ridiculous components which every human can&#039;t possibly accomplish to put together. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:08, 29 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks Hawaiian for the information, it was very informative. I shall need to do more research before posting my comments.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 23:13, 29 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_185&amp;diff=19062</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 185</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_185&amp;diff=19062"/>
		<updated>2012-08-29T03:28:26Z</updated>

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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If human beings would only reach out and take hold of the unconditional love that surrounds them, within theirselves each day, one may find that absolute knowledge can come to the one who seeks wisdom in truth. Each person, out of their own  free-will, chooses a negative path each day, they are seperated from the eternal knowledge of Creation. Only by choosing a positive path to follow the laws and commandments given of Creation, is there an unconditional love that is felt, by experiencing life to its fullest, through the power within the indwelling of Creation within ourselves, that has always been there, but not recognized, because of the material lifes distractions of consciouseness which also occur daily. It would be good if these contacts would continue as they once were, but there are so many distracted people around, as well as time continueing to progress age and health, that it could only be acheived through public awareness of the existence of absolute truth, which would require an absolute transistion of the whole of an ignorant person of beliefs. Then even the falible ones would have no choice but to be submissive, with global awareness of absolute truth, which would dissolve the belief system indefinitely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 04:28, 29 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_501&amp;diff=19004</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 501</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_501&amp;diff=19004"/>
		<updated>2012-08-23T12:56:11Z</updated>

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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t think the fine people of Earth can handle the truth in it&#039;s entirety without aggressive behavior at this time. I thought wikileaks was dangerous in giving names but it did give a good idea about who needs to step up and grow in maturity so we can get back on track and spiritual development rather than useless schemes and plots that are childish. Look at North and South Korea brothers and sisters destroying themselves or is someone pulling the strings of confrontaton?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Don&#039;t speak of absolute terms, because there are a few humans on Earth that are able to handle the truth in it&#039;s entirety without resorting to aggressive behavior. WilikiLeaks did do some good in releasing information on the Korean crisis, for once understanding the nature of “saving face” has been addressed on neutral ground where both parties including their allies have the truth being said by a neutral source (WilikiLeaks) with the whole world as witness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No way will China acknowledge its disappointment with North Korea accordingly to cable leaks, it will support unification by South Korea with the blessing of the US, so long as it’s not hostile to them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== JimmyJean said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When will be the correct edition of Talmud Jmmanuel be available for us?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JimmyJean|JimmyJean]] 01:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Ptaah:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It really was enough already that in the course of the years after the publication of the &amp;quot;Talmud Jmmanuel,&amp;quot; assassination attempts were perpetrated against you and that you always only very barely escaped all 22 attacks.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only very barely, but always. An excellent fighter he is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Maybe they should add another “attempt”, but classified as gross negligence by the Plejarens themselves, who through unreasonable demands (they admitted so) on BEAM that almost killed him! It is part of Billy’s nature to bring the Truth as it is, whether you like it or not, besides the Nokodemjion spirit within him adheres to the same principle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Billy once said to Quetzal “have fun with fear” when he mentioned how “barbaric” it is for BEAM to insist on free falling from their beamship to Earth and at the last minute have the Plejaren re-materialize him before physically contacting the surface!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rigel Rozanski said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Wow.. &lt;br /&gt;
very interesting. &lt;br /&gt;
I wish I knew more about the possibility forecast methods.&lt;br /&gt;
 - Also this report reenforces how human each and everyone is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spectacular &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Rrozansk|Rrozansk]] 19:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s about time the Plejarens displayed some common sense of not letting the truth be known after 22 assassination attempts on BEAM! Had he done otherwise, Billy would have surely been exterminated by forces that depend on religious extortion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now, one has to ponder, what else are these Plejarens not telling BEAM that has direct consequences for both Earthly and universal applications? One topic for sure refers to Fluidual forces and the reasons why they won’t allow any pictures being taken, because they are still material in nature. That is why spiritual topics can be double-edged and should be closely monitored by not just material Beings, but BEINGS as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe there will be 23rd and 24th assassination attempts. I will not get interested to know about those things. He will survive again.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 15:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It would be very unfortunate to witness an assassination of Billy Meier and short-circuiting the spirit of Nokodemjion of further experiences here on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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He represents ALL dimensions as well as the good and evil ones he co-created in the DERN universe, so much is to be derived from BEAM, if only one takes the time and effort to discipline themselves through the materials he has done so far.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many connections are to be derived that are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; for those to discover, if you just study with an open mind and connect it yourself.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rrozansk said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
@alive&lt;br /&gt;
- LOL is that true about the free falling to earth&amp;gt;?!&lt;br /&gt;
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- I&#039;d love to see where it says that.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Rrozansk|Rrozansk]] 15:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Contact Report 157&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quetzal:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
74. I can rely on it like you do with the dematerialization shafts of our ships, when you simply jump into them from impossible heights, in order to materialize on the Earth again several kilometers below the hovering ship – something that we would never do.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Billy:&lt;br /&gt;
You’re probably a bit timid?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quetzal:&lt;br /&gt;
75. Our dematerialization machinery works absolutely flawlessly, so we also don’t have to fear&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
76. If we use this ourselves, however, then the security hatch is always closed, so we can’t even see out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
77. You, however, jump in each case when the hatch is open, and you look down for kilometers beneath you, into the yawning depths to the ground&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Billy:&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow, fear is, nevertheless, fun for me. You can, indeed, say it once again: “still a barbarian.” That may be true, my friend, but even a barbarian is nice sometimes – especially when one jumps into the void and suddenly sees thousands of meters of Earth&#039;s altitude rushing toward him – even if this is only for a split second or for one or two seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Quetzal:&lt;br /&gt;
78. Truly barbaric.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 17:32, 8 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rrozansk,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are you the other side of Rigel Rozanski? Just like Jekyll is the other side of Hyde?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 14:46, 9 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thomas57 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When will the revised translation come?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Thomas57|KTM]] 18:42, 8 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thomas57 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When will the revised transaction be published?&lt;br /&gt;
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It would be a great clarity to read without the Christian interpretations!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for all your efforts! &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Thomas57|KTM]] 18:43, 8 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RemR said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thomas57,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I emailed Michael Horn on February 18 and said, &amp;quot;Do you have any idea when the new edition of the&lt;br /&gt;
Talmud will be available?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
This was his reply:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;No date has been announced and I think it will take a bit of time to do all the work and publication.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 02:24, 9 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
All things have a certain reasoning behind them. These assasination atempts happened because the falible ones were afraid they might lose control of their industry of deceit. These attemps could continue, until the falible ones responsible, finally, also discover their true self within this creational existence. Of coarse, negative influences are always present where positive influence brings transistion.  The Talmud of Jmmanuel was published as it was needed to be published, for humankind was not ready for the full version yet in their evolution. I feel that now, that it is the year 2012, that the absolutely perfect interpretation of this manuscript be brought to this world, for all people, who know rather than believe absolute truth, to decide for themselves which direction their lives will go,including even those in the industry of deception who feel that they can be in control if they lie enough.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 13:56, 23 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_132&amp;diff=18921</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 132</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_132&amp;diff=18921"/>
		<updated>2012-08-04T14:48:59Z</updated>

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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the new translation Ben.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:13, 1 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It has been 32 years after Semiase admitted that the Pleiarens &amp;quot;make wrong analyses in reference &lt;br /&gt;
to the evaluation of the human being of Earth or his concerns&amp;quot; (Contact Report 130), and that they should &amp;quot;analyze the terrestrial humankind again in a new form&amp;quot; (Contact Report 132). In the course of time the Pleiarens had been improving their analitical methods and devices, which enable them to study Earth human life forms&#039;s behaviours in sharper images. It is safe to say that the Pleiarens today are not as naive as they were, and that their current assessments have become more accurate than they made in that difficult year of 1980. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 10:15, 1 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
You&#039;re welcome, James.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s nice that the first 229 contacts are now finally available in English in almost full form, other than the sections that were omitted in the earlier contacts contained in the Message from the Pleiades series. This is sort of a momentous occasion for me. :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, I look forward to being able to progress closer to the present day contacts now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 14:09, 1 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sheila said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Ben!  And it&#039;s great to see(?) you back at it.  You are doing an awesome job and a great service to the english speaking population.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:55, 1 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sheila said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations Ben!  And it&#039;s great to see(?) you back at it.  You are doing an awesome job and a great service to the english speaking population.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:56, 1 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Hi Sheila, I lost your email address and wanted to get more information on the herbal cures for cancers, which the Canadian native Indians used. Please reconnect to harryoyama@yahoo.com.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks again Ben for the translations I always got the feeling that the High Council and sometimes the Plejarens themselves are too high strung on their logical assessments towards Earthly humans that they often become unreasonable and overbearing without considering the unique negative factors that continue to influence us to this day and forward. We don&#039;t live in a conducive environment like they do and have to contend with many negative factors including violence and death.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Plejarens intend to cut off contacts when Billy reaches his unfortunate demise or if another ET establishes contact with Earthly humans is not in the best interests of everyone else since they will always be some faction or persons of interest whether Earthly bound or outside who have evil agendas and find that the energetic potentials located on Earth are quite appropriate for manipulation since the spirit forms incarnated here covers a broad spectrum up to 12 billion years of evolution and everything else between.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:06, 1 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the nice words everyone. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for the Plejaren&#039;s intentions to cut off all contacts after Billy&#039;s death, it shouldn&#039;t be for too long of a period of time anyway. I&#039;m pretty sure I read somewhere that Billy&#039;s next incarnation is planned for less than 100 years after his death, so the contacts should resume in that period of time. I can&#039;t remember where I read that, though, and I can&#039;t find it at the moment. It may have been in one of my own translated contact reports. Given the populace&#039;s increasing interest in and acceptance of the UFO phenomenon, I imagine that the reception will be greater at that time, and all the contact information from this time, which will probably still be on the internet, I hope, will still have their use and will help to drive that newly started mission.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 14:06, 2 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2075 is when he will be reborn. See [[Contact Report 115]] if interested.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:39, 2 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for finding that fact, James. Based on what Quetzal says in sentences 16 and 17 of the 194th Contact, it seems that Billy is going to depart from this life in the year 2029. Therefore, it should only be a period of about 46 years, where the Plejaren will be removed from this planet, but I imagine they will return for the birth of &amp;quot;future Billy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 13:30, 3 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I got some information from a person who is quite close to Billy saying that there is a mystery on those who were obligated to help him in these missions who were all killed in separate car accidents. I have not yet found any mention of this in the English contact notes and maybe someone else can verify that such events occurred recently in this century? With that in mind and the fact that the SSSC was visited by some Earthly faction in the future trying to influence current events to suit their own agendas by removing certain materials BEAM was working on, including editing some of his writings makes one leery of both current and future events should Billy meet his demise with no one to watch or prevent such events from occurring.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Will the Plejaren leave Earthly events to its own accord or maintain careful watch so that other negative or degenerative factions do not significantly alter their mission into chaos and destruction? There are still others here on Earth including those with 12 billion years of evolution who volunteered to help Nokodemjon’s mission succeed who will continue this quest even after Billy’s demise, but will they also be subjected to the demise of those killed in car accidents?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:05, 4 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m hoping for a fully equipped and fine tuned Cosmic Billy featuring all the new upgrades to battle the maze of oddness on our daringly weird planet. Choose a out of the box thinking group that is out of this universe. The only way to bring order to this chaos is organized chaos filled individuals. The current group is more of a truthful straightforward bunch, Earth human is impregnable to common sense majority so we need some masterful mind artists of development. Normal people cannot sae Earth. They will have to be of the extroardinarily creative variety. :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:11, 4 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks Ben for this new translation, may the truth continue to be brought to the english speaking people. For I feel it has helped me gain more knowledge of the truth. I feel to be extraordinarily creative, one must perfect all forms of absolute truth, gaining new knowledge on a daily basis and putting into practice knowledge that is gained, to bring about true reality within theirselves.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 15:48, 4 August 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Acriasis</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_011&amp;diff=18872</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 011</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_011&amp;diff=18872"/>
		<updated>2012-07-30T03:21:48Z</updated>

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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Semjase and her reports always leave a cliffhanger at the end and keeps me guessing.:)&lt;br /&gt;
CR1: be wary of barbaric race, what barbaric race?&lt;br /&gt;
which brings us to CR11 who crosses through space violently looking to conquer the universe? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:15, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Contact Report 011 should have been a learning experience for the Plejarens as it perceives the incident when BEAM suffered a breakdown due to unreasonable demands, which Quetzal proved to be true by an experiment with androids who destroyed themselves during role representations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Further analysis on the following material below indicates a rather “aloof” prospective by the Plejarens who consider “influences” as some form of extreme emergency response in contrast to what other evil ET’s have and continue to do. What they have done in arresting the Giza, should have been done long ago and would have much more positive outcome. Hopefully they learn and apply themselves more precisely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Semjase:&lt;br /&gt;
24. Your frequent force achievements of a physical form often exceed your last reserves and throw you down.&lt;br /&gt;
25. Even though you can regenerate your strength tremendously fast over and over again through the power of your spirit and consciousness, nevertheless, it is detrimental to your health.&lt;br /&gt;
27. It already borders on insanity, in view of the fact that your will exceeds the limits of what is possible for physical achievements, for your will is only driven by spiritual and consciousness-related force.&lt;br /&gt;
38. But we really only intervened in extreme emergencies - strictly speaking, three times.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Billy:&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed nothing of that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Semjase:&lt;br /&gt;
39. You also couldn&#039;t do that because we only influenced human beings to find you.&lt;br /&gt;
40. Your action was quite right, and your logic was so sharp that I shudder at it.&lt;br /&gt;
42. You yourself had to deliberately condemn your own body and push your consciousness to the brink of insanity, while the two others only had to let hatred be aroused within them, through which they were pushed forward.&lt;br /&gt;
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Notice that BEAM’s will to overcome his material physical body limitations in its quest for a higher goal borders upon what Semjase calls “insanity”, yet admit that this action was “quite right”. Under certain Earthly circumstances (considering all the negative influences) some things done here by its inhabitants appear barbaric and insane, but are somehow necessary in order to survive its rather harsh environment between good and evil.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the Plejarens and High Council are the primary leaders in this DERN universe for Creational teachings at the material level, they still have much to learn from those that were and continued to be denied the proper environment for harmonic logical reasoning and spiritual evolution.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 02:10, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Everyone beware. &lt;br /&gt;
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This contact report is falsified. Lines 105, 106, and 107 are wrong. Don&#039;t even bother studying this nonsence. I&#039;m pretty damn sure that it wasn&#039;t Benjamins doing. The German sentences were translated properly but they themselves are falsified and are lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 04:39, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sanjin, how did you gain that cognition?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 10:53, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
James, check on this page:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/OM.K49.htm&lt;br /&gt;
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47. Everything that the human inherits, everything that he brings with him through the billion-fold existence of the past, everything that he enjoyed, knew, read, learnt or experienced in this or in past lives, lies concealed in his unconsciousness.&lt;br /&gt;
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48. Why, therefore, does he not master the technique of concentration, and why does he not order his unconsciousness and make full use of all his knowledge and ability?&lt;br /&gt;
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49. The yearning after all his knowledge and ability, after the experience and after the wisdom, lies yet hidden deep in him.&lt;br /&gt;
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This one has also been tampered with :&lt;br /&gt;
110. When this happens and when the human being recognizes his spirit, the whole abundance gathered in previous lives will arise again in knowledge and wisdom, capability, freedom, love, and peace and will richly benefit him, once he learns to get all these values from the memory banks and to utilize them himself. &lt;br /&gt;
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The original is:&lt;br /&gt;
52. If that happens, and the human recognises his spirit, the entire abundance of knowledge, wisdom, ability, freedom, love and peace collected in earlier lives comes about again and richly benefits him.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 14:48, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the sentences translated by the Gaiaguys, unconsciosness should have been translated as subconsciousness. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 14:51, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bigfoot said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The part where it says &amp;quot;billions of past lives&amp;quot; caught my attention. The material minded person who falsified the truth is past lives greedy.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 04:01, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bigfoot said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This false report should be reported to Eduard Meier ASAP. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 04:08, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Zameen said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So how are we to know what else has been falsified? There are so many contact reports. Is this a misinterpretation on wendelles part or is this different?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 04:21, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
For those of you who think that the most important thing of Billy&#039;s material is spiritual teaching, please read this contact report over and over. You would see that discourse on beamship is not just something to start conversation between Billy and Semiase. &lt;br /&gt;
The Pleiarens did not give many informations about beamship technology because those are very precious and could be misused by Earth humans. Beamship is not something unimportant for Billy. He asked Semiase and other Pleiarens about it on several occasions. Beamship is also not something unimportant for the Pleiarens. They came to Earth by riding beamships, not by meditating.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 18:02, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve already informed Sanjin that I retrieved the German version of this Contact Report from the most revised and most updated version of the German Contact Reports. Thus, it is my conclusion that the differences which appear throughout Semjase&#039;s teaching in this version of this Contact Report, as compared to earlier versions of this teaching that were released in other works, represent intentional corrections that have been approved by Meier. Thus, the earlier versions were erroneous, and this revised version is the most accurate one.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, I also told Sanjin to check with Christian Frehner, just to be sure, so we&#039;ll see what turns up in this regard in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 18:50, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Semiase said: (144) The human being lives because the Creation exists, and his life must be so balanced and relatively perfect, as the Creation itself is balanced and relatively perfect.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is different with Immanuel&#039;s explaination (I don&#039;t remember if it is in a contact report or in Talmud Immanuel) which said that Creation is perfecting itself over and over because it is not perfect.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 06:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)I would agree with Semjase&#039;s first comment (if what quoted is true) IF the human&#039;s creational environment is balanced and &amp;quot;relatively&amp;quot; perfect. However, Earth humans are certainly NOT balanced, due to gross interferences, genetic manipulations of the worst possible kinds, including one of Creation&#039;s worst offenses called &amp;quot;programmed suicides&amp;quot; of shorten life cycles, then of course, Sons and Daughters of Heaven with their self-imposed absolute &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; and religions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then you have those that stood by, justifying their non involvement due to some &amp;quot;directive&amp;quot; or interpretation of &amp;quot;free will&amp;quot; of others in order to evolve in circumstances that are detrimental to others who are already seriously handicapped by the above statements.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation is always evolving itself; to be absolutely perfect is to prevent further evolution from continuing. But if one perceives &amp;quot;its&amp;quot; existence from an overview prospective, it is &amp;quot;relatively&amp;quot; perfect, that is relative to its components of various realms of existence, otherwise there would be no need of reincarnations and/or 7 different spiritual levels of evolution, since BEING PERFECT is absolute without any need for improvement&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 21:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bigfoot said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
To achieve perfection would mean something is finite and so to achieve infinite would mean something is not perfect and thus there is unity. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 05:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t think we will reach a material perfection but I think feelings and spiritual development may bring us close to it. I think all current products need a lot of work thus yearly upgrades to existing stuff such as TV, cars, phones, etc. it&#039;s like a neverending cycle here on Earth. ................Until then I await the transforming robot that can do everything and I mean EVERYTHING. Toaster oven, portable moving bathroom, space shuttle, boat, car, time machine..................and many more features.:)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 14:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Hawaiian, I don&#039;t know whether Semiase really said it or not. I copied and pasted Semiase&#039;s statement from Contact Report 11 that I found on this website. I don&#039;t know about its validity and I don&#039;t care much. &lt;br /&gt;
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Markvd, a robot you imagined must be so smart that it would quickly refuse to be your slave anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 16:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Bigfoot, I&#039;m not sure of what you mean, but I am happy to see that you mentioned something about the unity of finite and infinite. Please keep your current nickname, don&#039;t change &amp;quot;Bigfoot&amp;quot; to be &amp;quot;Big----&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 16:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Alive I do not believe it to be slavery when the robot my team perfects has no feelings, emotions, and only wants to get the bread toasted just right. :} If the robot was like Data from Star Trek with adaptive AI then send me to the prison planet.:}&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Semiase: (123) The direct display of the truth supersedes all useless objections; the realization of the truth makes everything down to the finest detail clear and self-explanatory. &lt;br /&gt;
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For me personally that is the most beautiful words found on this slightly controversial english Contact Report 11. So beautiful because they are so encouraging. Beauty always encourages me to search for more informations about it. Beautiful women who walked passing-by before my eyes encouraged me, through their brief presence, to know more about them (what are their names? where do they live? and so on.) Instinctively I know that I could find something true inside a beauty, and something beautiful inside a truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 06:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Hi everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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I want to quickly inform everyone here that I got in contact with Elisabeth Gruber who is responsible for correspondence with FIGU. She did some investigating and what came out is that this version is indeed the updated one. So what Benjamin said is correct.&lt;br /&gt;
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What is somewhat strange is that they thanked me for my attentiveness. They said it was a great help to them and will include these updates in the new version of the OM. &lt;br /&gt;
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What I found out did not really satisfy me, for one because the updated version does not make sense properly to me and is quite the opposite from what was originally written. Also, I&#039;m pretty sure that I read in one of these earlier contacts that they would not be changing anything that was stated in the contact reports. Plus, there are some other questions that this has raised for me, but I will get back to this issue later.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 14:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sanjin wrote: &amp;quot;They said it was a great help to them and will include these updates in the new version of the OM.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New version of OM? After the new version of Talmud Immanuel? Will there be new version of Contact Report? New spiritual teachings? New doubts? New confusions? New angers?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 14:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Alive I believe that they said they cannot reveal the full reports now because there are literary assassins on the loose with dangerous lethal story changing capabilities.:) A wonderous gift of many during these times. I would like to know what year in the future all the reports will be divulged in it&#039;s true full glory.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBeilin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In contact #17 Billy was asking about hypnosis to connect to his past lives, but the contact notes just stop there. Is there more information on this subject? Why didn&#039;t it work?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Dbeilin|Dbeilin]] 04:15, 9 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBeilin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In contact #17 Billy was asking about hypnosis to connect to his past lives, but the contact notes just stop there. Is there more information on this subject? Why didn&#039;t it work?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Dbeilin|Dbeilin]] 04:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DBeilin,&lt;br /&gt;
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The Plejarens &amp;quot;embedded&amp;quot; some protection counter-measures to protect the information in Billy in case of unauthorized attempts to reveal its secrets. Such attempts could be fatal for those doing such deeds. See the article below from Contact 115.&lt;br /&gt;
Contact Report 115&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah:&lt;br /&gt;
36. But this also means that you must be careful that you also aren&#039;t connected to mechanical devices or apparatuses which could elicit any things from you or which would force you to speak&lt;br /&gt;
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Billy:&lt;br /&gt;
You probably mean essentially the so-called truth serums and lie detectors, etc., right?&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah:&lt;br /&gt;
37. That is of extreme exactness and correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
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38. You may never get involved in such things, but also not in suggestion and hypnosis, where the latter could, under certain circumstances, end fatally for the practitioner.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:58, 9 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Aernesttree said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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exelent stuff  saalome&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Aernesttree|Aernesttree]] 09:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robert1957 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think the translation of sentence 74 should be &amp;quot; 74. The human being himself is a very multi-layered being, and his various shrouds conceal others (meaning people) parts of his real personality.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
(I am a dutch speaking person and Dutch is related to German.)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Robert1957|Robert1957]] 18:22, 15 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It could also be translated like this. The human himself is a very multilayered being, and his various shrouds hide his real personality from other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robert1957 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
To Alive:&lt;br /&gt;
You&#039;re right.&lt;br /&gt;
It doesn&#039;t say &amp;quot;parts&amp;quot; anywhere in the german text of sentence 74.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Robert1957|Robert1957]] 18:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, and I thank you for your scrutiny on the sentence 74, for it inspired me to read and contemplate this contact report again. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 19:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you, to all who bring this message of truth, to those of this planet, whom have realization of truth within them, and understand their part in Creation, for all knowledge is within. If only the earth human will recognize his or her inner self and believe in this fundemental truth about Creation, then properity would come to this materialistic world. Thanks be to all ecpecially those not of this earth who have brought this knowledge into the eternal light with our immortal being hidden within us.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 04:17, 30 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you, to all who bring this message of truth, to those of this planet, whom have realization of truth within them, and understand their part in Creation, for all knowledge is within. If only the earth human will recognize his or her inner self and believe in this fundemental truth about Creation, then prosperity would come to this materialistic world. Thanks be to all ecpecially those not of this earth who have brought this knowledge into the eternal light with our immortal being hidden within us.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 04:21, 30 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Semjase and her reports always leave a cliffhanger at the end and keeps me guessing.:)&lt;br /&gt;
CR1: be wary of barbaric race, what barbaric race?&lt;br /&gt;
which brings us to CR11 who crosses through space violently looking to conquer the universe? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:15, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Contact Report 011 should have been a learning experience for the Plejarens as it perceives the incident when BEAM suffered a breakdown due to unreasonable demands, which Quetzal proved to be true by an experiment with androids who destroyed themselves during role representations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further analysis on the following material below indicates a rather “aloof” prospective by the Plejarens who consider “influences” as some form of extreme emergency response in contrast to what other evil ET’s have and continue to do. What they have done in arresting the Giza, should have been done long ago and would have much more positive outcome. Hopefully they learn and apply themselves more precisely.&lt;br /&gt;
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Semjase:&lt;br /&gt;
24. Your frequent force achievements of a physical form often exceed your last reserves and throw you down.&lt;br /&gt;
25. Even though you can regenerate your strength tremendously fast over and over again through the power of your spirit and consciousness, nevertheless, it is detrimental to your health.&lt;br /&gt;
27. It already borders on insanity, in view of the fact that your will exceeds the limits of what is possible for physical achievements, for your will is only driven by spiritual and consciousness-related force.&lt;br /&gt;
38. But we really only intervened in extreme emergencies - strictly speaking, three times.&lt;br /&gt;
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Billy:&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed nothing of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Semjase:&lt;br /&gt;
39. You also couldn&#039;t do that because we only influenced human beings to find you.&lt;br /&gt;
40. Your action was quite right, and your logic was so sharp that I shudder at it.&lt;br /&gt;
42. You yourself had to deliberately condemn your own body and push your consciousness to the brink of insanity, while the two others only had to let hatred be aroused within them, through which they were pushed forward.&lt;br /&gt;
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Notice that BEAM’s will to overcome his material physical body limitations in its quest for a higher goal borders upon what Semjase calls “insanity”, yet admit that this action was “quite right”. Under certain Earthly circumstances (considering all the negative influences) some things done here by its inhabitants appear barbaric and insane, but are somehow necessary in order to survive its rather harsh environment between good and evil.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the Plejarens and High Council are the primary leaders in this DERN universe for Creational teachings at the material level, they still have much to learn from those that were and continued to be denied the proper environment for harmonic logical reasoning and spiritual evolution.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 02:10, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Everyone beware. &lt;br /&gt;
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This contact report is falsified. Lines 105, 106, and 107 are wrong. Don&#039;t even bother studying this nonsence. I&#039;m pretty damn sure that it wasn&#039;t Benjamins doing. The German sentences were translated properly but they themselves are falsified and are lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 04:39, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sanjin, how did you gain that cognition?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 10:53, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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James, check on this page:&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/OM.K49.htm&lt;br /&gt;
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47. Everything that the human inherits, everything that he brings with him through the billion-fold existence of the past, everything that he enjoyed, knew, read, learnt or experienced in this or in past lives, lies concealed in his unconsciousness.&lt;br /&gt;
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48. Why, therefore, does he not master the technique of concentration, and why does he not order his unconsciousness and make full use of all his knowledge and ability?&lt;br /&gt;
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49. The yearning after all his knowledge and ability, after the experience and after the wisdom, lies yet hidden deep in him.&lt;br /&gt;
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This one has also been tampered with :&lt;br /&gt;
110. When this happens and when the human being recognizes his spirit, the whole abundance gathered in previous lives will arise again in knowledge and wisdom, capability, freedom, love, and peace and will richly benefit him, once he learns to get all these values from the memory banks and to utilize them himself. &lt;br /&gt;
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The original is:&lt;br /&gt;
52. If that happens, and the human recognises his spirit, the entire abundance of knowledge, wisdom, ability, freedom, love and peace collected in earlier lives comes about again and richly benefits him.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 14:48, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the sentences translated by the Gaiaguys, unconsciosness should have been translated as subconsciousness. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 14:51, 23 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bigfoot said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The part where it says &amp;quot;billions of past lives&amp;quot; caught my attention. The material minded person who falsified the truth is past lives greedy.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 04:01, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bigfoot said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This false report should be reported to Eduard Meier ASAP. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 04:08, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Zameen said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So how are we to know what else has been falsified? There are so many contact reports. Is this a misinterpretation on wendelles part or is this different?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 04:21, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
For those of you who think that the most important thing of Billy&#039;s material is spiritual teaching, please read this contact report over and over. You would see that discourse on beamship is not just something to start conversation between Billy and Semiase. &lt;br /&gt;
The Pleiarens did not give many informations about beamship technology because those are very precious and could be misused by Earth humans. Beamship is not something unimportant for Billy. He asked Semiase and other Pleiarens about it on several occasions. Beamship is also not something unimportant for the Pleiarens. They came to Earth by riding beamships, not by meditating.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 18:02, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve already informed Sanjin that I retrieved the German version of this Contact Report from the most revised and most updated version of the German Contact Reports. Thus, it is my conclusion that the differences which appear throughout Semjase&#039;s teaching in this version of this Contact Report, as compared to earlier versions of this teaching that were released in other works, represent intentional corrections that have been approved by Meier. Thus, the earlier versions were erroneous, and this revised version is the most accurate one.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, I also told Sanjin to check with Christian Frehner, just to be sure, so we&#039;ll see what turns up in this regard in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 18:50, 25 October 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Semiase said: (144) The human being lives because the Creation exists, and his life must be so balanced and relatively perfect, as the Creation itself is balanced and relatively perfect.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is different with Immanuel&#039;s explaination (I don&#039;t remember if it is in a contact report or in Talmud Immanuel) which said that Creation is perfecting itself over and over because it is not perfect.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 06:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)I would agree with Semjase&#039;s first comment (if what quoted is true) IF the human&#039;s creational environment is balanced and &amp;quot;relatively&amp;quot; perfect. However, Earth humans are certainly NOT balanced, due to gross interferences, genetic manipulations of the worst possible kinds, including one of Creation&#039;s worst offenses called &amp;quot;programmed suicides&amp;quot; of shorten life cycles, then of course, Sons and Daughters of Heaven with their self-imposed absolute &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; and religions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then you have those that stood by, justifying their non involvement due to some &amp;quot;directive&amp;quot; or interpretation of &amp;quot;free will&amp;quot; of others in order to evolve in circumstances that are detrimental to others who are already seriously handicapped by the above statements.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation is always evolving itself; to be absolutely perfect is to prevent further evolution from continuing. But if one perceives &amp;quot;its&amp;quot; existence from an overview prospective, it is &amp;quot;relatively&amp;quot; perfect, that is relative to its components of various realms of existence, otherwise there would be no need of reincarnations and/or 7 different spiritual levels of evolution, since BEING PERFECT is absolute without any need for improvement&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 21:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bigfoot said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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To achieve perfection would mean something is finite and so to achieve infinite would mean something is not perfect and thus there is unity. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 05:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t think we will reach a material perfection but I think feelings and spiritual development may bring us close to it. I think all current products need a lot of work thus yearly upgrades to existing stuff such as TV, cars, phones, etc. it&#039;s like a neverending cycle here on Earth. ................Until then I await the transforming robot that can do everything and I mean EVERYTHING. Toaster oven, portable moving bathroom, space shuttle, boat, car, time machine..................and many more features.:)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 14:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hawaiian, I don&#039;t know whether Semiase really said it or not. I copied and pasted Semiase&#039;s statement from Contact Report 11 that I found on this website. I don&#039;t know about its validity and I don&#039;t care much. &lt;br /&gt;
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Markvd, a robot you imagined must be so smart that it would quickly refuse to be your slave anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 16:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Bigfoot, I&#039;m not sure of what you mean, but I am happy to see that you mentioned something about the unity of finite and infinite. Please keep your current nickname, don&#039;t change &amp;quot;Bigfoot&amp;quot; to be &amp;quot;Big----&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 16:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alive I do not believe it to be slavery when the robot my team perfects has no feelings, emotions, and only wants to get the bread toasted just right. :} If the robot was like Data from Star Trek with adaptive AI then send me to the prison planet.:}&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Semiase: (123) The direct display of the truth supersedes all useless objections; the realization of the truth makes everything down to the finest detail clear and self-explanatory. &lt;br /&gt;
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For me personally that is the most beautiful words found on this slightly controversial english Contact Report 11. So beautiful because they are so encouraging. Beauty always encourages me to search for more informations about it. Beautiful women who walked passing-by before my eyes encouraged me, through their brief presence, to know more about them (what are their names? where do they live? and so on.) Instinctively I know that I could find something true inside a beauty, and something beautiful inside a truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 06:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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I want to quickly inform everyone here that I got in contact with Elisabeth Gruber who is responsible for correspondence with FIGU. She did some investigating and what came out is that this version is indeed the updated one. So what Benjamin said is correct.&lt;br /&gt;
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What is somewhat strange is that they thanked me for my attentiveness. They said it was a great help to them and will include these updates in the new version of the OM. &lt;br /&gt;
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What I found out did not really satisfy me, for one because the updated version does not make sense properly to me and is quite the opposite from what was originally written. Also, I&#039;m pretty sure that I read in one of these earlier contacts that they would not be changing anything that was stated in the contact reports. Plus, there are some other questions that this has raised for me, but I will get back to this issue later.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 14:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Sanjin wrote: &amp;quot;They said it was a great help to them and will include these updates in the new version of the OM.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New version of OM? After the new version of Talmud Immanuel? Will there be new version of Contact Report? New spiritual teachings? New doubts? New confusions? New angers?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 14:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Alive I believe that they said they cannot reveal the full reports now because there are literary assassins on the loose with dangerous lethal story changing capabilities.:) A wonderous gift of many during these times. I would like to know what year in the future all the reports will be divulged in it&#039;s true full glory.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBeilin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In contact #17 Billy was asking about hypnosis to connect to his past lives, but the contact notes just stop there. Is there more information on this subject? Why didn&#039;t it work?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Dbeilin|Dbeilin]] 04:15, 9 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBeilin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In contact #17 Billy was asking about hypnosis to connect to his past lives, but the contact notes just stop there. Is there more information on this subject? Why didn&#039;t it work?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Dbeilin|Dbeilin]] 04:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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DBeilin,&lt;br /&gt;
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The Plejarens &amp;quot;embedded&amp;quot; some protection counter-measures to protect the information in Billy in case of unauthorized attempts to reveal its secrets. Such attempts could be fatal for those doing such deeds. See the article below from Contact 115.&lt;br /&gt;
Contact Report 115&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah:&lt;br /&gt;
36. But this also means that you must be careful that you also aren&#039;t connected to mechanical devices or apparatuses which could elicit any things from you or which would force you to speak&lt;br /&gt;
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Billy:&lt;br /&gt;
You probably mean essentially the so-called truth serums and lie detectors, etc., right?&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah:&lt;br /&gt;
37. That is of extreme exactness and correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
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38. You may never get involved in such things, but also not in suggestion and hypnosis, where the latter could, under certain circumstances, end fatally for the practitioner.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:58, 9 March 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Aernesttree said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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exelent stuff  saalome&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Aernesttree|Aernesttree]] 09:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robert1957 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think the translation of sentence 74 should be &amp;quot; 74. The human being himself is a very multi-layered being, and his various shrouds conceal others (meaning people) parts of his real personality.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
(I am a dutch speaking person and Dutch is related to German.)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Robert1957|Robert1957]] 18:22, 15 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It could also be translated like this. The human himself is a very multilayered being, and his various shrouds hide his real personality from other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robert1957 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
To Alive:&lt;br /&gt;
You&#039;re right.&lt;br /&gt;
It doesn&#039;t say &amp;quot;parts&amp;quot; anywhere in the german text of sentence 74.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Robert1957|Robert1957]] 18:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, and I thank you for your scrutiny on the sentence 74, for it inspired me to read and contemplate this contact report again. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 19:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you, to all who bring this message of truth, to those of this planet, whom have realization of truth within them, and understand their part in Creation, for all knowledge is within. If only the earth human will recognize his or her inner self and believe in this fundemental truth about Creation, then properity would come to this materialistic world. Thanks be to all ecpecially those not of this earth who have brought this knowledge into the eternal light with our immortal being hidden within us.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 04:17, 30 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== alexander awadzi said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have read the living words of teaching from mr. Billy Meier. The teaching of Billy are not from this earth. They are spiritual teaching which norrish the mind and spirit. I thank mr. Billy so much for his effort and time to open the truth to mankind on earth. Thank you for more than a billion times.&lt;br /&gt;
The teaching of Billy will be known by all human beings. &lt;br /&gt;
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Praise be to Creation.&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Awadzi&lt;br /&gt;
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--alexander awadzi 00:03, 30 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mark said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where do these people come from claiming he&#039;s Jesus Christ? They must come from the stone age or further back. :) Just have a good laugh and move on, these aren&#039;t the droids we&#039;re looking for. &lt;br /&gt;
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--Mark 00:41, 30 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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William youre definately not the only one to make mistakes! Its all part of evolution though so its fine/ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow this is beyond fabrication. I love how to deflect critisim you try to say every other religion is false. That Jesus never exsisted, &amp;amp; some character Billy Meier made up to sell some books is the real prophet. Likewise the idea that mohammad was the reincarnation of this so-called real jesus is totally bogus. Have you ever read any holy books? I&#039;ve studied religion for yrs and your ideas are off the wall. Would the reincarnated self try to go to war with your past tribes? Seems highly unlikely. Also muslims think of all christians as infiedels. Not my idea of a glowing peaceful prophet. Again this site is just telling a huge amount of lies to move books and silly tapes. Highly shameful for Billy as our great prophet of the times.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:TheTruth|TheTruth]] 23:47, 25 June 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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So wait, people actually believe that Billy claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus? O_o I honestly can&#039;t see how one could make the comparison. Isnt the fictional Jesus just a distortion?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 16:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Zameen said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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@truth-You need to read so mich more before saying such things. Dont worry though, all of the information I&#039;m suggesting is all free. The only thing you need to spend is some time reading. Maybe you&#039;ll figure it out, maybe your not ready, who knows&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, if Billy was Jmmanuel in a past life, and Jesus was a made up distorted story based off of Jmmanuel, How is it that Billy was not Jesus? Can&#039;t we just say that Jesus was a false distorted character based off of Jmmanuel who Billy was in a past life? &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 08:28, 2 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus is a delusionally invented and idolized cult-figure, who is supposedly also the son of god and god himself. Billy simply does not want to be associated with anything like this.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sanjin for the reply. That is what I figured. I was just asking because I know people who feel that something similar to the Jesus story occurred so I provided them with the Jmmanuel alternative and wanted to make sure that I had not misunderstood something.&lt;br /&gt;
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I also do not feel that it is right to answer &amp;quot;Was Billy Jesus in a past life?&amp;quot; with a simple no. I say this because people might be asking to try to find the truth behind the Jesus story and would be better to say that he was not Jesus but rather Jmmanuel who was falsely named Jesus and his teachings distored.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 23:14, 6 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If one looks in the Old Testament there is one sentence that states Jmmanuel as the being the one and only true prophet at that time. But in the New Testament which I believe was influenced to a large degree by the evil Giza Intelligences to replace the Old Testament, but specially to replace Jmmanuel with the falsified non-existent personality of Jesus Christ for several very important reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all by substituting a non-existent personality for Jmmanuel, the Christian religions now have to worship this fallacy imposter, thus negating everything the true prophet Jmmanuel has brought forward and all things connected to Jesus Christ are now voided because thoughts and prayers are energy related and directed to this non-existing idea is like a black hole which gobbles up this energy into nothing. Thus praying to Jesus Christ or even thinking about this ruse is uncreational in nature because it benefits no one but the clergy and church that enslave the spiritual evolution of its members who participate in such nonsense. Such behavior is parasitic and un-creational.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another important goal of creating this fallacy is to make the so called “resurrection” of Jesus Christ from the dead into a living material being once again who actually transcends this material world directly into a god or creator of the universe, thus making it virtually impossible for any human being to evolve spiritually because this “evolution” idea is not only illogical but violates the basic principles of creational laws by declaring that now there is only one god and only through him (Jesus Christ) can mankind find salvation.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in essence the creation of this Jesus Christ is to make “him” the god of creation a monopoly reserved exclusively for him only, therefore everyone else are to remain servitude and enslaved by this concept forever, what a ruse. All the Giza Intelligence were removed from Earth and banished on a prison planet millions of light years away by the Plejarens and are all dead awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata pure spiritual level.&lt;br /&gt;
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So that leaves the clergy, church, Pope and other religious cronies which they constantly preaching fallacy and fear to the masses in order to remain in power. It is only the ignorant and those too lazy to think for themselves who fall victim to this nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:48, 7 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It makes sense Hawaiian.&lt;br /&gt;
What do you mean though that the Giza-Intelligence would be awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata? Is there any mention of such an ability in the material? I ask out of interest. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 07:54, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Epicin21,&lt;br /&gt;
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All 2100 or so Gizas who were arrested and shipped off to a prison planet many millions of light years distance physically passed away and await incarnation. There are other Contact Reports and direct questions and answers from FIGU members to Billy in regards to incarnation including questions on whether pure spiritual forms also incarnate, you need to do the research yourself to your satisfaction. The link below implies that the Arahat Athersata level is responsible for incarnation of spirit forms into material human beings. The case of Nokodemjion was speacial because his spirit form was already in the Arahat Athersata and needed further assistance from the Petale level (7th spiritual level) in order to incarnate back into a physical human being.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nokodemjon incarnation process from pure spiritual Arahat Athersata to material human being&lt;br /&gt;
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Contact Report 238  http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238&lt;br /&gt;
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689. And thus the order and decree was passed, through the engagement of the Arahat Athersata level, that those who passed away in the course of time to a natural death should not be ordained a reincarnation, rather that their spirit forms had to stay as long in the realm of the other side until they, one day, through a new decree of Nokodemion, could again find an existence in human bodies.&lt;br /&gt;
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697. I know that the terrestrial scientists and researchers are in error in this regard, as much as in many other things. &lt;br /&gt;
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As he then entered the transitional level of the fluctuating material state at the age of 58,000,000,000 years, he created there, through spiritual potency, a further people, after which he seemingly spent precisely 2,000,000,000 years in the transitional level.&lt;br /&gt;
Thereafter he remained for a further 4,000,000,000 years in that level, after which he shifted in a rapid manner and entered the Arahat Athersata level, where he remained during the next 10,000,000,000 years, before he determined, as a result of the degeneration of his begotten and created peoples, and in unanimous accord with the entire Arahat Athersata level, to change himself back into a material human life form, in order in this way to command a halt to his degenerated, criminal, usurping peoples and to bring them to reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:40, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am watching this show My Ghost Story and wondering what is going on here damnit, I thought everything is under perfect control, we have all kinds of wild spirits running around. I say bring in the army of dwarves to cleanse them out. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:46, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sheila said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Mark, from the contact notes, I would think most of that is caused by fluidal forces, teenagers seem to have a lot of it.  And don&#039;t forget that story from Billy about the person who kept seeing the ghost in her home and it was traced back to the elderly lady who used to live in that house.  Pretty awesome fluidal powers to be able to take naps and project her younger self into that house.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:26, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sheila for the fluidal update. Some of those spirits are in proper order but some are full of chaos. I wonder if they have a set of rules to abide by as well as we do. If not I have a long list after watching a couple episodes. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:32, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sheila, you&#039;re absolutely correct in your accessment of Fluidual energy being responsible for the majority of these so called &amp;quot;paranormal&amp;quot; activities. People have to remember that thoughts are also energy related to emotions and do manifest themselves as in that documented case that BEAM discribes of that lady who almost always slept at a certain time in the afternoon and constanly dreamt about being the young girl who used to live at home located in another State where she actually &amp;quot;manifested&amp;quot; herself as a young girl running out of the house which others saw as a &amp;quot;ghost&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have written a article located in the FIGU forum which is used to counter-act such forces, but not sure if I should post it here also? Ghost or &amp;quot;haunted&amp;quot; places can actually attached their energy to the emotional status of those who live or even think about these things.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:38, 17 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:37, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:38, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:38, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== alexander awadzi said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have read the living words of teaching from mr. Billy Meier. The teaching of Billy are not from this earth. They are spiritual teaching which norrish the mind and spirit. I thank mr. Billy so much for his effort and time to open the truth to mankind on earth. Thank you for more than a billion times.&lt;br /&gt;
The teaching of Billy will be known by all human beings. &lt;br /&gt;
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Praise be to Creation.&lt;br /&gt;
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--alexander awadzi 00:03, 30 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mark said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where do these people come from claiming he&#039;s Jesus Christ? They must come from the stone age or further back. :) Just have a good laugh and move on, these aren&#039;t the droids we&#039;re looking for. &lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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William youre definately not the only one to make mistakes! Its all part of evolution though so its fine/ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TheTruth said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow this is beyond fabrication. I love how to deflect critisim you try to say every other religion is false. That Jesus never exsisted, &amp;amp; some character Billy Meier made up to sell some books is the real prophet. Likewise the idea that mohammad was the reincarnation of this so-called real jesus is totally bogus. Have you ever read any holy books? I&#039;ve studied religion for yrs and your ideas are off the wall. Would the reincarnated self try to go to war with your past tribes? Seems highly unlikely. Also muslims think of all christians as infiedels. Not my idea of a glowing peaceful prophet. Again this site is just telling a huge amount of lies to move books and silly tapes. Highly shameful for Billy as our great prophet of the times.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:TheTruth|TheTruth]] 23:47, 25 June 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sarah said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So wait, people actually believe that Billy claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus? O_o I honestly can&#039;t see how one could make the comparison. Isnt the fictional Jesus just a distortion?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 16:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Zameen said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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@truth-You need to read so mich more before saying such things. Dont worry though, all of the information I&#039;m suggesting is all free. The only thing you need to spend is some time reading. Maybe you&#039;ll figure it out, maybe your not ready, who knows&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, if Billy was Jmmanuel in a past life, and Jesus was a made up distorted story based off of Jmmanuel, How is it that Billy was not Jesus? Can&#039;t we just say that Jesus was a false distorted character based off of Jmmanuel who Billy was in a past life? &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 08:28, 2 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus is a delusionally invented and idolized cult-figure, who is supposedly also the son of god and god himself. Billy simply does not want to be associated with anything like this.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 12:52, 2 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sanjin for the reply. That is what I figured. I was just asking because I know people who feel that something similar to the Jesus story occurred so I provided them with the Jmmanuel alternative and wanted to make sure that I had not misunderstood something.&lt;br /&gt;
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I also do not feel that it is right to answer &amp;quot;Was Billy Jesus in a past life?&amp;quot; with a simple no. I say this because people might be asking to try to find the truth behind the Jesus story and would be better to say that he was not Jesus but rather Jmmanuel who was falsely named Jesus and his teachings distored.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 23:14, 6 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If one looks in the Old Testament there is one sentence that states Jmmanuel as the being the one and only true prophet at that time. But in the New Testament which I believe was influenced to a large degree by the evil Giza Intelligences to replace the Old Testament, but specially to replace Jmmanuel with the falsified non-existent personality of Jesus Christ for several very important reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all by substituting a non-existent personality for Jmmanuel, the Christian religions now have to worship this fallacy imposter, thus negating everything the true prophet Jmmanuel has brought forward and all things connected to Jesus Christ are now voided because thoughts and prayers are energy related and directed to this non-existing idea is like a black hole which gobbles up this energy into nothing. Thus praying to Jesus Christ or even thinking about this ruse is uncreational in nature because it benefits no one but the clergy and church that enslave the spiritual evolution of its members who participate in such nonsense. Such behavior is parasitic and un-creational.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another important goal of creating this fallacy is to make the so called “resurrection” of Jesus Christ from the dead into a living material being once again who actually transcends this material world directly into a god or creator of the universe, thus making it virtually impossible for any human being to evolve spiritually because this “evolution” idea is not only illogical but violates the basic principles of creational laws by declaring that now there is only one god and only through him (Jesus Christ) can mankind find salvation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So in essence the creation of this Jesus Christ is to make “him” the god of creation a monopoly reserved exclusively for him only, therefore everyone else are to remain servitude and enslaved by this concept forever, what a ruse. All the Giza Intelligence were removed from Earth and banished on a prison planet millions of light years away by the Plejarens and are all dead awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata pure spiritual level.&lt;br /&gt;
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So that leaves the clergy, church, Pope and other religious cronies which they constantly preaching fallacy and fear to the masses in order to remain in power. It is only the ignorant and those too lazy to think for themselves who fall victim to this nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:48, 7 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It makes sense Hawaiian.&lt;br /&gt;
What do you mean though that the Giza-Intelligence would be awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata? Is there any mention of such an ability in the material? I ask out of interest. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 07:54, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Epicin21,&lt;br /&gt;
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All 2100 or so Gizas who were arrested and shipped off to a prison planet many millions of light years distance physically passed away and await incarnation. There are other Contact Reports and direct questions and answers from FIGU members to Billy in regards to incarnation including questions on whether pure spiritual forms also incarnate, you need to do the research yourself to your satisfaction. The link below implies that the Arahat Athersata level is responsible for incarnation of spirit forms into material human beings. The case of Nokodemjion was speacial because his spirit form was already in the Arahat Athersata and needed further assistance from the Petale level (7th spiritual level) in order to incarnate back into a physical human being.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nokodemjon incarnation process from pure spiritual Arahat Athersata to material human being&lt;br /&gt;
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Contact Report 238  http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238&lt;br /&gt;
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 Billy&lt;br /&gt;
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689. And thus the order and decree was passed, through the engagement of the Arahat Athersata level, that those who passed away in the course of time to a natural death should not be ordained a reincarnation, rather that their spirit forms had to stay as long in the realm of the other side until they, one day, through a new decree of Nokodemion, could again find an existence in human bodies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah 	&lt;br /&gt;
697. I know that the terrestrial scientists and researchers are in error in this regard, as much as in many other things. &lt;br /&gt;
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Billy&lt;br /&gt;
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As he then entered the transitional level of the fluctuating material state at the age of 58,000,000,000 years, he created there, through spiritual potency, a further people, after which he seemingly spent precisely 2,000,000,000 years in the transitional level.&lt;br /&gt;
Thereafter he remained for a further 4,000,000,000 years in that level, after which he shifted in a rapid manner and entered the Arahat Athersata level, where he remained during the next 10,000,000,000 years, before he determined, as a result of the degeneration of his begotten and created peoples, and in unanimous accord with the entire Arahat Athersata level, to change himself back into a material human life form, in order in this way to command a halt to his degenerated, criminal, usurping peoples and to bring them to reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:40, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am watching this show My Ghost Story and wondering what is going on here damnit, I thought everything is under perfect control, we have all kinds of wild spirits running around. I say bring in the army of dwarves to cleanse them out. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:46, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sheila said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Mark, from the contact notes, I would think most of that is caused by fluidal forces, teenagers seem to have a lot of it.  And don&#039;t forget that story from Billy about the person who kept seeing the ghost in her home and it was traced back to the elderly lady who used to live in that house.  Pretty awesome fluidal powers to be able to take naps and project her younger self into that house.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:26, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sheila for the fluidal update. Some of those spirits are in proper order but some are full of chaos. I wonder if they have a set of rules to abide by as well as we do. If not I have a long list after watching a couple episodes. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:32, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sheila, you&#039;re absolutely correct in your accessment of Fluidual energy being responsible for the majority of these so called &amp;quot;paranormal&amp;quot; activities. People have to remember that thoughts are also energy related to emotions and do manifest themselves as in that documented case that BEAM discribes of that lady who almost always slept at a certain time in the afternoon and constanly dreamt about being the young girl who used to live at home located in another State where she actually &amp;quot;manifested&amp;quot; herself as a young girl running out of the house which others saw as a &amp;quot;ghost&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have written a article located in the FIGU forum which is used to counter-act such forces, but not sure if I should post it here also? Ghost or &amp;quot;haunted&amp;quot; places can actually attached their energy to the emotional status of those who live or even think about these things.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:38, 17 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:37, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acriasis said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:38, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== alexander awadzi said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have read the living words of teaching from mr. Billy Meier. The teaching of Billy are not from this earth. They are spiritual teaching which norrish the mind and spirit. I thank mr. Billy so much for his effort and time to open the truth to mankind on earth. Thank you for more than a billion times.&lt;br /&gt;
The teaching of Billy will be known by all human beings. &lt;br /&gt;
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Praise be to Creation.&lt;br /&gt;
Alexander Awadzi&lt;br /&gt;
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--alexander awadzi 00:03, 30 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mark said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where do these people come from claiming he&#039;s Jesus Christ? They must come from the stone age or further back. :) Just have a good laugh and move on, these aren&#039;t the droids we&#039;re looking for. &lt;br /&gt;
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--Mark 00:41, 30 July 2010 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== William1234 said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A while ago when I was studying things about this, somehow I thought that BM was the incarnation of Jmmanuel. I got confused and I think I told a couple people this and I truly regret it. I hope everyone gets to read this article because it has all the right information. I am sorry, I was confused and now I know it&#039;s better not to talk about it and examine the information more closely. I am really not that stupid, or maybe I am, I was more confused. I am still a huge Meier fan because I know the teachings are truth, but I won&#039;t be talking about any of it any time soon. I am sorry for the damage this caused. &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:William1234|William1234]] 19:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jamesm said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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William youre definately not the only one to make mistakes! Its all part of evolution though so its fine/ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TheTruth said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow this is beyond fabrication. I love how to deflect critisim you try to say every other religion is false. That Jesus never exsisted, &amp;amp; some character Billy Meier made up to sell some books is the real prophet. Likewise the idea that mohammad was the reincarnation of this so-called real jesus is totally bogus. Have you ever read any holy books? I&#039;ve studied religion for yrs and your ideas are off the wall. Would the reincarnated self try to go to war with your past tribes? Seems highly unlikely. Also muslims think of all christians as infiedels. Not my idea of a glowing peaceful prophet. Again this site is just telling a huge amount of lies to move books and silly tapes. Highly shameful for Billy as our great prophet of the times.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:TheTruth|TheTruth]] 23:47, 25 June 2011 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sarah said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So wait, people actually believe that Billy claimed to be a reincarnation of Jesus? O_o I honestly can&#039;t see how one could make the comparison. Isnt the fictional Jesus just a distortion?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sarah|Sarah]] 16:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Zameen said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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@truth-You need to read so mich more before saying such things. Dont worry though, all of the information I&#039;m suggesting is all free. The only thing you need to spend is some time reading. Maybe you&#039;ll figure it out, maybe your not ready, who knows&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 19:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, if Billy was Jmmanuel in a past life, and Jesus was a made up distorted story based off of Jmmanuel, How is it that Billy was not Jesus? Can&#039;t we just say that Jesus was a false distorted character based off of Jmmanuel who Billy was in a past life? &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 08:28, 2 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sanjin said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus is a delusionally invented and idolized cult-figure, who is supposedly also the son of god and god himself. Billy simply does not want to be associated with anything like this.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 12:52, 2 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sanjin for the reply. That is what I figured. I was just asking because I know people who feel that something similar to the Jesus story occurred so I provided them with the Jmmanuel alternative and wanted to make sure that I had not misunderstood something.&lt;br /&gt;
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I also do not feel that it is right to answer &amp;quot;Was Billy Jesus in a past life?&amp;quot; with a simple no. I say this because people might be asking to try to find the truth behind the Jesus story and would be better to say that he was not Jesus but rather Jmmanuel who was falsely named Jesus and his teachings distored.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 23:14, 6 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If one looks in the Old Testament there is one sentence that states Jmmanuel as the being the one and only true prophet at that time. But in the New Testament which I believe was influenced to a large degree by the evil Giza Intelligences to replace the Old Testament, but specially to replace Jmmanuel with the falsified non-existent personality of Jesus Christ for several very important reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First of all by substituting a non-existent personality for Jmmanuel, the Christian religions now have to worship this fallacy imposter, thus negating everything the true prophet Jmmanuel has brought forward and all things connected to Jesus Christ are now voided because thoughts and prayers are energy related and directed to this non-existing idea is like a black hole which gobbles up this energy into nothing. Thus praying to Jesus Christ or even thinking about this ruse is uncreational in nature because it benefits no one but the clergy and church that enslave the spiritual evolution of its members who participate in such nonsense. Such behavior is parasitic and un-creational.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another important goal of creating this fallacy is to make the so called “resurrection” of Jesus Christ from the dead into a living material being once again who actually transcends this material world directly into a god or creator of the universe, thus making it virtually impossible for any human being to evolve spiritually because this “evolution” idea is not only illogical but violates the basic principles of creational laws by declaring that now there is only one god and only through him (Jesus Christ) can mankind find salvation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So in essence the creation of this Jesus Christ is to make “him” the god of creation a monopoly reserved exclusively for him only, therefore everyone else are to remain servitude and enslaved by this concept forever, what a ruse. All the Giza Intelligence were removed from Earth and banished on a prison planet millions of light years away by the Plejarens and are all dead awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata pure spiritual level.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So that leaves the clergy, church, Pope and other religious cronies which they constantly preaching fallacy and fear to the masses in order to remain in power. It is only the ignorant and those too lazy to think for themselves who fall victim to this nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:48, 7 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Epicn2l said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It makes sense Hawaiian.&lt;br /&gt;
What do you mean though that the Giza-Intelligence would be awaiting their fate of being incarnated or not by the Arathat Athersata? Is there any mention of such an ability in the material? I ask out of interest. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Epicn2l|Kit Varela]] 07:54, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Epicin21,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All 2100 or so Gizas who were arrested and shipped off to a prison planet many millions of light years distance physically passed away and await incarnation. There are other Contact Reports and direct questions and answers from FIGU members to Billy in regards to incarnation including questions on whether pure spiritual forms also incarnate, you need to do the research yourself to your satisfaction. The link below implies that the Arahat Athersata level is responsible for incarnation of spirit forms into material human beings. The case of Nokodemjion was speacial because his spirit form was already in the Arahat Athersata and needed further assistance from the Petale level (7th spiritual level) in order to incarnate back into a physical human being.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nokodemjon incarnation process from pure spiritual Arahat Athersata to material human being&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Contact Report 238  http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_238&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 Billy&lt;br /&gt;
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689. And thus the order and decree was passed, through the engagement of the Arahat Athersata level, that those who passed away in the course of time to a natural death should not be ordained a reincarnation, rather that their spirit forms had to stay as long in the realm of the other side until they, one day, through a new decree of Nokodemion, could again find an existence in human bodies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah 	&lt;br /&gt;
697. I know that the terrestrial scientists and researchers are in error in this regard, as much as in many other things. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Billy&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
As he then entered the transitional level of the fluctuating material state at the age of 58,000,000,000 years, he created there, through spiritual potency, a further people, after which he seemingly spent precisely 2,000,000,000 years in the transitional level.&lt;br /&gt;
Thereafter he remained for a further 4,000,000,000 years in that level, after which he shifted in a rapid manner and entered the Arahat Athersata level, where he remained during the next 10,000,000,000 years, before he determined, as a result of the degeneration of his begotten and created peoples, and in unanimous accord with the entire Arahat Athersata level, to change himself back into a material human life form, in order in this way to command a halt to his degenerated, criminal, usurping peoples and to bring them to reason.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:40, 15 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I am watching this show My Ghost Story and wondering what is going on here damnit, I thought everything is under perfect control, we have all kinds of wild spirits running around. I say bring in the army of dwarves to cleanse them out. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 01:46, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sheila said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Mark, from the contact notes, I would think most of that is caused by fluidal forces, teenagers seem to have a lot of it.  And don&#039;t forget that story from Billy about the person who kept seeing the ghost in her home and it was traced back to the elderly lady who used to live in that house.  Pretty awesome fluidal powers to be able to take naps and project her younger self into that house.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:26, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks Sheila for the fluidal update. Some of those spirits are in proper order but some are full of chaos. I wonder if they have a set of rules to abide by as well as we do. If not I have a long list after watching a couple episodes. :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:32, 16 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sheila, you&#039;re absolutely correct in your accessment of Fluidual energy being responsible for the majority of these so called &amp;quot;paranormal&amp;quot; activities. People have to remember that thoughts are also energy related to emotions and do manifest themselves as in that documented case that BEAM discribes of that lady who almost always slept at a certain time in the afternoon and constanly dreamt about being the young girl who used to live at home located in another State where she actually &amp;quot;manifested&amp;quot; herself as a young girl running out of the house which others saw as a &amp;quot;ghost&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have written a article located in the FIGU forum which is used to counter-act such forces, but not sure if I should post it here also? Ghost or &amp;quot;haunted&amp;quot; places can actually attached their energy to the emotional status of those who live or even think about these things.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:38, 17 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I feel it is absolutely vital the true teachings of Creation, are spread into the human thought processes, for them to come out of the darkness and into the light. It is ignorance that has helped cause this deceit to go on for so long among those whom do not know the truth. If only the earth human will seek out the truth about Creation and who he really is, then he may recognize his true self as a fragment of Creation, within his inner being. Thank you for this truth, may it be set free upon this planet for human cognition of true reality.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Acriasis|Acriasis]] 20:37, 28 July 2012 (BST)&lt;br /&gt;
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