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Talk:Asket

2010-10-15T00:53:55Z

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== robert said ... ==

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dear asket i am wish to talk and meet you personal i am know you are too far from our dern to dal universe

--robert 21:08, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
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== robert said ... ==

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asket is right i have knew something not right of lord jmmanuel

--robert 03:06, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== mark said ... ==

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Did you ever think about doing a dancing with the stars universal edition featuring Asket partnered with Will Smith, Nera partnered with Tommy Lee Jones, and Billy with Sharon Stone. Good ratings which could lead up to a gigantic space series. :) I come in peace and don't want to leave in pieces.

--mark 03:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== Mark said ... ==

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Question 2 of my 100 question series? What does Asket and Nera translate to? Thanks

--Mark 11:25, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== ManuHernz said ... ==

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Wow! Asket, whatever her age, She looks so spiritual, so nice. I could say she's so sexy! in spirit. I love her. I always dreamed about growing up sufficiently to meet some one like her or to be able to create my own feminine worlds to create myself, women like her to love and be loved.
My blessings and honors to Asket.

--ManuHernz 13:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== ManuHernz said ... ==

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Wow! Asket, whatever her age, She looks so spiritual, so nice. I could say she's so sexy! in spirit. I love her. I always dreamed about growing up sufficiently to meet some one like her or to be able to create my own feminine worlds to create myself, women like her to love and be loved.
My blessings and honors to Asket.

--ManuHernz 13:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Be mindful of what you say, dear brothers, as this is not an official FIGU web site and it is highly unlikely that Eduard or any Plejaren will ever read your comments. I wouldn't rule it out though, considering the Plejarens' tech level.

--Jamesm 19:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Jamesm,

I'm glad you're watching the comment section, because I am afraid it will turn into some chaotic forum. Unfortunately the official FIGU forum has become like that, although there are a few highly enlighten ones, it is buried by silly immature comments.

It is hard to support the Mission of Truth for those seeking the answers that were and continued to be suppressed, let alone be further mired by undisciplined off-the-wall remarks.

That is the reason why I quit posting in the FIGU forums years ago and hope my posts don't suffer the same here?

--Hawaiian 05:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Remembering the seven-fold structure of a given universe, our own being the DERN....
These seven universal belts, are listed by Plejaren scientists, as follows:

1. Central Core
2. Ur-Core Belt
3. Ur-Space Belt
4. Solid-state Matter Universe Belt
5. Transformation Belt
6. Creation Belt
7. Displacement Belt

The important factor to note being that the DAL universe is outside of and parallel to the DERN's structure, listed above...and likewise possesses a similar structure of it's own...

Asket was Meier's second contact, following the Plejare known as Sfath...
She came from this parallel universe, which requires a very special device to navigate to and return...

The renegade, Ashtar Sheran, was destroyed while flying over Asket's home world of Timar...in the Akon Star system. His Soul is linked (bonded) under the creational laws to that universe now...

--Drekx Omega 21:30, 21 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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I must confess that Asket is a very attractive woman and what ManuHernz said about her is not disrespectful, in spite of Jamesm's caution...
And Jamesm is correct to suggest that the Plejaren are more than capable of reading the thoughts (and fantasies) of the participants here...even without logging onto the net.

Galactic humans recognised human sexuality without the need to temper it with guilt...

--Drekx Omega 21:23, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Drekx is now banned from posting on this site for 1 year.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:02, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Hawaiian, I agree, I want to allow discussion on all subjects but without insulting or childish remarks or the spreading of false information. Do you think I have done right in banning them?

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:16, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Jamesm,

Hey fella, no offense intended...!! :-)

--Drekx Omega 10:01, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Obviously the ban didn't work. I'll look into it.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 18:47, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Jamesm,
You seem insecure and overly protective of what you consider to be truth...maybe you could try some meditation and cease your blind phobias of those who may see as different to yourself...
The Plejaren do no want blind followers like you, as you have nothing original to offer anyone...you are simply copying Billy Meier's material like any other robot does...The cosmos does not need more robots, nor more religions...

--Drekx Omega 21:01, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Drekx, ok fair enough. You have equal rights to the rest of us so you can post here if you like but be prepared to receive more strong criticism.

--Jamesm 21:16, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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OK Jamesm,

That is your first fair response to me here and I thank you for it...

--Drekx Omega 21:43, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== emanuell said ... ==

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I do belive that alien life exist but I think this guy meier might be a hoax I don't know. I hope he was sayin the truth but I really don't know what to think.

--emanuell 07:09, 27 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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our thoughts can not travel outside of our dern universe , but lets say for any reason asket is inside our universe and if i send a telepathic thought to asket , does she have to be tuned in to my thought frequency to receive it or she would get it right away? i have attempted to contact her for purely spiritual reasons , i can be a help to rase the frequency of earth .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:52, 15 October 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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our thoughts can not travel outside of our dern universe , but lets say for any reason asket is inside our universe and if i send a telepathic thought to asket , does she have to be tuned in to my thought frequency to receive it or she would get it right away? i have attempted to contact her for purely spiritual reasons , i can be a help to rase the frequency of earth .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:53, 15 October 2010 (BST)
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Talk:Asket

2010-10-15T00:52:40Z

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Talk:Asket and Nera Photos

2010-09-09T04:02:56Z

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== david said ... ==

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i wondered why he would take a photo of tv screen when he had so much other undeniable evidence, this seems like an unlikely but rational explanation as it would be seem very out of character 2 forge the photo, ive read alot of know it all debunkers on youtube and beyond with there silly ''rational'' explanation, the miniture trees etc! i get angry at people like that but i guess they are on there on path. i just dont know why they go to the bother if they rnt interested!

--david 05:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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== zameen said ... ==

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People go to such lengths to cover up and or try to falsify the truth in order to keep profit streams alive. A disgusting practice but a reality nonetheless

--zameen 23:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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== TCFelon said ... ==

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Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics. and other unique proofs and have them circulate safely around the world as, Billy, his associates, on ground and above and I would like.. I guess I inadvertently lied to a few of my friends about some of the photos. I hope one day soon we ,(all of us around the world) can get together without any uncomfortable thoughts/feelings of deceit or any prejudged feelings of hate, jealously and anger towards next man 'and or entity.' Peace/Wisdom/Love/Truth. To the Plejaren Fed. and their wonderful associates.

William C.

--[[User:TCFelon|TCFelon]] 18:56, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I agree TCFelon but if they had to capture everybody who falsifies Billy's work and those that lack sincerity and genuineness it would probably take all eternity. They will probably only stop the most heinous pretenders. :) The photos are rather interesting because they say that Asket and Nera are from another universe thus they don't mind there photos being here. Due to the creativity and level of lowness some beings can reach they altered it so they are dancers on a talk show. That calls for a Billy uppercut to the nose. j/k

--Mark 22:28, 29 March 2010 (BST)
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== tom said ... ==

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Próby zamachów na Zycie Billego świadczą o niczym innym tylko o tym, że mówi on prawdę. To samo tyczy sie zafalszowywania jego zdjęć.
Ci którzy znają temat szaraków i replitalian wiedzą kto to są "ludzie" w czerni... im najmniej zależy na poznaniu przez ludzi prawdy, prawdy, która przecież wyzwala, wyzwala z więzów zniewolenia..
Meier od samego początku, jak zapoznałem się z jego osobą, wyzwala we mnie zaufanie... Jest zupełnie niepodobnym do tych co gonią za władzą i towarzyszącą jej ułudą pieniądza. Zna wiele praw duchowych i sam żyje wedle nich, więc mało prawdopodobne jest to, że próbowałby robić jakiekolwiek fałszerstwa, a tym bardziej, jak niektóre źródła jemu zarzucają, w celu zdobycia sławy lub majątku.
Bardziej mają powody ku temu ci, którzy obawiają się zaistnienia tych praw w ludzkich sercach i umysłach, bo to rujnuje ich starania o zniewolenie gatunku ludzkiego.
Więcej niczego chyba nie trzeba tu dodawać. Przynajmniej ode mnie to wszystko.

--tom 15:15, 11 April 2010 (BST)
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== tom said ... ==

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tom ist from Poland ;)

--tom 15:18, 11 April 2010 (BST)
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== human being said ... ==

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BEAM is awesome, thank you ! controlledfollymaker@gmail.com

--human being 00:08, 10 June 2010 (BST)
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== Matt C. said ... ==

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This guy is a Fraud. His website is down, and he's far from credible. This is the person who would says that the aliens sent the blueprints for their (trashcan lid looking) UFO's to the wrong people who ended up making them into trash can lids... seriously?
David doesn't know the difference between There and Their, so his opinion is out.
Is it harder to cover up the "truth" or to fall into the cross hairs of a conman?
I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one. This solution is the simplest, obvious, one; this man is a fraud.
This post will probably be deleted. Just saying...

--Matt C. 08:49, 16 June 2010 (BST)
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== Neckel said ... ==

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no your comment won't get deleted.......... haha it is always interesting to see people who come with information from second or even third hand and make judgments about others without having a clue of the person itself...... this is present in almost everyones life and i bet some judge you also in the same way. I bet you come after me when i do a "spelling" error like David did...... if one has nothing else to offer then one goes after the small and unimportant things, right ;)). If you find sth. with a higher ethic and a higher sense of moral then we can talk again. (Do not come with religions, most of them preach love and make war.) I wish you good luck in your search for the truth.

Salome

--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 09:20, 16 June 2010 (BST)
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== DRN said ... ==

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Couple things I don't understand. These are not in any certain order.
1. You sell these photos. So Wouldn't any copy predating 1984 be of the original photo? And if so, how similar to the forgery are they?
2. How did you find out Mr. S was working for the MIB and when?
3. If Mr. S disappeared one day without a trace, how did his organization learn of his death?
4. If Billy was told in 1984 these were forgeries, but yet forgot due to amnesia sustained in 1982, how was he able to recollect the origin of his nickname and the first and last name of the woman who gave it to her during an interview in 1982? Was it selected amnesia or partial?
5. If you have a photo of Mr. S and factual evidence he worked for MIB, why not release that info? seems it would clear some up some of the misconceptions.

--DRN 18:21, 11 July 2010 (BST)
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== DRN said ... ==

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In question 3 when i say "his organization" I mean billy's.

--DRN 18:28, 11 July 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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DRN
If I understood correctly MIB is not Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones OR from our planet. They are from the Sirian region from an alternate time space bred to cause headaches on Earth. If this info is false however there is only one solution to ponder. Is Billy really Billy or is hea fake Billy? In that case arrest Billy, Asket, Nera, we have there photos and Quetzal, Ptaah, Semjase and send them to the prison planet for questioning. No one is exempt from breaking the rules and escaping universal security. :)

--Mark 02:04, 12 July 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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There was a force of renegade Sirians known unofficially as the "men in black," and they were captured in a sting operation by Sirian security personnel in 2006, while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia."

The Earthly counterparts of the MIBs are real and were set up in the late 1940s to create fear in the minds and hearts of members of the public, military UFO witnesses, as well as the establishment (Forrestal for example) who may seek to reveal the truth about UFOs visiting this planet...which the Truman administration decided to clamp down upon...

Asket, Nera and Billy having their photos taken together sounds very recreational, but was actually intended to serve a highly useful purpose in furnishing objective evidence that "aliens" are actual relatives of earth humans and not "bug-eyed monsters," as depicted by the media, with some deliberation I might add...
Indeed, there are far more points of commonality that such photos would provide, especially considering the beauty of the women selected and the fact that they were relatives from the DAL universe...(Asket.)

Unfortunately, this benign intent was muddied by the cruel MIBs, using those doubles from the US show...rendering the pix null and void..

A shame Billy did not realise sooner that the photographer (with a little persuading) had conned him with fakes..

--Drekx Omega 16:00, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== MarksmanR said ... ==

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Drekx, you twist truth with false tales.

"while operating illegal devices within an ancient Lyran complex upon the Martian surface known as "Cydonia.""

^ you made that up, it is not part of FIGU material, Cydonia doesn't exist.

--[[User:MarksmanR|MarksmanR]] 16:34, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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MarksmanR,

Cydonia is a well known region mapped by Earth astronomers and astro-cartographers and named by them; "cydonia." So your ignorant claims of "false tales," are falsehoods in themselves and I don't like your tone...

First of all, FIGU material is not a new religion that demands blind obedience from it's "followers."

Second, the Plejaren do not always expect you to follow everything in the reports, as if it were holy rit.
You are supposed to supplement their data with your own, when possible. So if mention is made of X, you should appreciate it's correlation to Y.

Thirdly, the contact reports do mention the very "sting operation" I mentioned, that ocurred at the Cydonia region complex of monuments upon the Martian surface...

I'll attach the contact report by Ptaah for your perusal and education....

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Men_in_Black,_Mars_and_Meteors

--Drekx Omega 20:51, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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TCFelon said:
"Why can't Ptaah and or somebody who has the know how, intercept in someway with the m.i.b. or whomever, so the people who are trying to help Billy with his real unedited pics"

Drekx response:
The Sirians did capture their own renagade MIBs in 2006, ending a dangerous operation against the Plejaren programme with Meier...

So contrary to popular belief, the Sirians are well known allies of the Plejaren, even if this is not mentioned much in the contact notes, for whatever reason...
The rare exceptions being contact reports 311 and 471...grateful to them for that coverage, so thanks to Billy and Ptaah.

Now with reference to the Earth human MIBs...they are operatives for the American Military-industrial complex of corporations...

Under the laws of human freewill and non interference, neither the Sirians nor Plejaren were able to prevent their mischief, at the time of the Nera/Asket photo fix..

However, with rising human consciousness and full Sirian mandate, that right to protect this planet's people with fairness, is increasingly placing pressure on the evil doers who run the NSA, MIBs, etc, etc...

Maybe if Meier were allowed to try this again, although the Plejaren would not want to risk his life, or that of his family...

It really is dependent on a change in the way this planet is secretly governed, so politics and economics require to be addressed..

Incidentally, there are no ET rulers running the human elites, no "reptiles," etc...just bad human beings running banks, governments, corporations and security..

--Drekx Omega 13:55, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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how can we see the real pictures .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 03:38, 3 September 2010 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Ashegheaty, Theyfly.com has some nice pictures.Don't worry about photoshopping the pictues Asket AND Nera according to reports are in the DAL universe and cannot be affected by our Earth degeneracies. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 14:04, 3 September 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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i meant real pictures of asket , i searched the entire internet and couldnt find any real pictures of here , can any one help .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 01:52, 5 September 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Ashegheaty, I think only Billy knows which one is real since he met her face-to-face. But with this in mind it could be the one on the left below: [[File:The real asket.png]]

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 12:38, 5 September 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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thanks jamesm , i guess those are the long ear lobs that she has . so the timmers have longer earlobs just like the pleiadians . or maybe this is semjase .are you sure this is asket the lady from trillions of light years away , the twin universe of ours .?

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 04:54, 9 September 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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another question :the pleiadians can time travel so they can travel to the future so much that they can see when our universe has became an absolute absolutum but they say they cant go beyond the seventh great time .so thats only 15 thousand trillion years from now and still a long way for us to become an absolutum , whats there limitation .and the other thing is they know whats gonna happen to humanity in the next 100 , 200 and 1000 years .and if we are going to destroy our self
they know . but they cant interfere in our evolution .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 05:02, 9 September 2010 (BST)
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Talk:Asket and Nera Photos

2010-09-09T03:54:09Z

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Talk:DAL Universe

2010-09-09T03:47:19Z

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== enkhtur b said ... ==

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It is still hard to comprehend that our universe can contain time shifted brothers on the same universe. With all efforts to digest and visualize cannot put them out into clear field. Sure, it is up to us to figure out this puzzle. One thing I don't undertsand is why they advanced civilizations have this gate between two universes that is dangering universes each other in case, somehow, one of the billion developing civilisations can figure out Ultimate chain reactions that can puvarize all of us and them. I guess they might have thought about it and have preventive self distructive Gate!!!

--enkhtur b 22:59, 23 May 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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Interesting how the mostly humanoid inhabitants of the Arkon Star Nation, including those from planet Timar, originate from our own DERN universe, specifically from the Plejare..
Having travelled and settled there eons ago...

Yet, in spite of this DAL universe being of a differing time-space shift to the DERN, all matter there is of an identical type to that of the DERN....And can be transferred from one realm to the other, with suitable technology.

And we fascinatingly observe a ring-pas-not for the purposes of reincarnation for anyone who physically "dies" within the DAL, compelling their Souls to remain within that universe, in spite of an origin elsewhere...
Very interesting data from our beloved friends, the Plejaren.....
That matterial substance, matter, can remain the same, yet is "contained," along with spirit, within certain realities or universes....In accord with the creational laws...

Breathtaking data, which is truly excellent to know.
And, following on from this, thankyou for allowing us to appreciate the fate of Ashtar Sheran and his band of renegades, who were involved in an attack on the Timar and consequently remain within the DAL universe....this fact completely nullifies the absurd "channels" who claim to communicate with the "Ashtar Command."

Gratitude to Billy, Semjase, Ptaah, Quetzal, Asket and so many other friends from cosmos....too many to include in my message..

In Light, Drekx Omega

--Drekx Omega 12:31, 24 May 2010 (BST)
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== zameen said ... ==

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I have chatted with others on this topic and they find it impossible. But is it more possible that we will all be whisked away to crystal chambers to be quickly evolved? Doubtful

--zameen 14:12, 24 May 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I read about this DAL universe, I hear it has more stars than us. Thus my conclusion is Ashtar Sheran went there to attack Timar but didn't bring enough sunblock and got vaporized. Unconfirmed of course but why would they have more stars. I also read that Semjase went there to upgrade her knowledge or something like that so I guess the DAL is more of a spiritual realm. A guess, if you plan to go there bring some powerful SPF.

--Mark 06:17, 25 May 2010 (BST)
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== Drekx Omega said ... ==

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In response to Mark:

I suspect that the DERN universe is just as spiritual as the DAL, as such an esoteric concept of spiritual wisdom is truly universal and measured by densities, rather than locations...moreover, spiritual services may be rendered on a multi-universal level.....

Thus, our dear collegue, Semjase, has been serving the inhabitants of the DAL as part of her striving for ever higher grades of esoteric abilities, namely those that take her upon the cosmic degrees, which may be numbered as four, by the Plejaren and named as follows,
the ranks; of “Jschwisch,” “IHWH,” “Petale” and “Arahat Athersata.”

And I understand that it was that the "demi-goddess" achieved a level within the rank of Jschwisch...

Commander Quatzal, likewise, rendered services on Earth and elsewhere, that enabled him to assume this role also....which means that he is indeed a highly evolved member of Plejaren society....and above the norm upon planet Erra.

So it would seem that those contactees from the Plejare visiting Earth are mostly exponents of great spiritual wisdoms...with the small exceptions of two Plejara, one a child of eleven, who won a competition to travel to meet Billy Meier on Earth, the other a Plejaren supervisor working within a food production facility on planet Erra.

In Light, Drekx

--Drekx Omega 13:25, 25 May 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Ashtar ship and his followers got vaporized in the DAL universe, I believe his previous personalities/experience are still stored in the memory banks of the DERN universe. If so, because of the material belt that separates the DAL and DERN universes prevents access between them, Ashtar and those that perished in the DAL universe may reincarnate without any "foundation" to connect them to the DERN universe for billions of years until the spirit form is elevated high enough to "re-connect"?

This should be an interesting event, because time has shown that negative personalities often re-incarnate with similar succeeding personalities while in the DERN universe, take for example the Pharaoh's son who persecuted Jmmanuel, who's spirit is the same person reincarnated that shot and tried to kill Billy. How Ashtar's spirit form evolves in the DAL universe should be closely monitored, maybe it could serve as a solution to degenerated personalities?

Also, I assume Semjase is in the DAL universe, being closely watched by her sister Pledja to recover her former psyche and other functions through a relearning process that takes 70 years after suffering the near fatal accident at the SSSC.

Furthermore, since it was the Timar's associates in the DAL who performed this operation on Semjase, they are most qualified to monitor her progress and intervene should it be required.

--Hawaiian 19:52, 25 May 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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continued; Just a passing observation, since BEAM is a healer with direct links to the Arahat Athersata and Pelale pure spiritual levels, along with his proven Fluidual powers, why don't the Plejaren allow Billy to restore Semjase's psi and other functions to the same attributes as the period in time when she was before the accident?

BEAM's re-incarnated spirit of Nokodemjon a former BEING of the Arahat Athersata level, although in a coarse physical human body, does not mean "its" potentials are restricted to material attributes only, but quite the contrary indeed, I would presume.

Is it not the Arahat Athersata "The Precious One Who Contemplates the Times"? In other words, time is not a limiting factor? Then at the Pelale level where both the male and female attributes are merged as One, just short of the Absolute pure spiritual level where more creation is created.

Also, one has to ponder the fact that Nokodemjon the co-creator of the Plejaren ancestors, is now interfaced with BEAM and connected to other pure spiritual levels mentioned previously, therefore one can logically assume that these "interconnections" spanning both time, coarse/fine matter, BEING/Being attributes work both ways, since they "merge" without requiring the DERN universe to go it's natural way of decay and rebirth?

Just my observations, as I see it and begin to understand why Jmmanuel said that BEAM is responsible for ALL dimensions in the DERN universe give this assumption a little more validity. I don't speak or read High German, thus can only extrapolate this theory through the English translations. Therefore, those that do speak German could probably find some reference to validate or invalidate such assumptions in the books Billy wrote.

It's just another exercise of one's mind....Salome

--Hawaiian 01:13, 26 May 2010 (BST)
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== frank macri said ... ==

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the explanation should be much cltarer

--frank macri 23:17, 30 July 2010 (BST)
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== ory said ... ==

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whats the demension of the absolutum .

--ory 00:22, 16 August 2010 (BST)
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== shtitz said ... ==

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our absolutum should have came from a higher form or maybe another absolutum but the pleiadian knowledge does not go any further than our absolutum , maybe the timers know the rest of the story or maybe some more advanced civilizations know that , but how come the pleiadians havent got the info from the older civilizations .this is interesting to know .whats beyond the absolutum in terms of time and space .

--shtitz 00:43, 16 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Ory, what use would it serve you to know the dimension of the Absolute Absolutum even if someone could tell you? I don't know the answer to your question by the way and who is to say there is only one Absolute Absolutum? As far as I understood it each Creation can evolve into an Absolute Absolutum and each Absolute Absolutum can create new Creations. Each new Creation will go on to evolve through 10<sup>49</sup> incarnations or you could say 10<sup>49</sup> big bangs and big crunches. My brain has now melted again.....thanks...

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:43, 16 August 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I think if one wants to known what is beyond the Absolute Absolutum is to get there and find out for oneself, "it" cannot be described even for oneself, since experience is a unique factor in itself as well! But the primary concern is the present and fulfilling the necessary attributes of evolution and spiritual development processes in the material realm, I assume because its a very long time frame to reach the Absolutum measured in many billions of years.

So it's best to concentrate on the now and near future, I would assume that once you reach that "state", for a better word description, all one's experiences as well as others are merged so that Creation itself, evolves also from this iota of knowledge, another drop added into this vast realm of evolution.

--Hawaiian 01:39, 16 August 2010 (BST)
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== ory said ... ==

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My dear jamesm i guess your right , knowing how big the absolutum is serves no use to me other than fulfilling my curiosity about the cosmos .
anyway i dont think even the pleiadians know the answer .right now im reading the book the pleiadian mission by randolph winters .i recommend it strongly if you havent read it already .and my very dear hawaiian i think that your absolutely right the best way to figure out how big the absolutum is to go there my self but my problem is that my vehicle is a chevy impala and its a 1990 model
do you think i can make it? im sure its not able to jump into hyper space. but thank you extremely very much for such helpful answers by both of you guys .

--ory 01:15, 19 August 2010 (BST)
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== shnool said ... ==

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as far as i know between the 10 in the power of 9 universes in the absolutum ours is the smallest because its in the earliest stages of evolution , of course in its peek meaning 156 trillion years old it would be larger . anyway the material part of our universe is a thousand trillion or 10 in the power of 15 light years wide ,if you include the creational area it would be 10 in the power of 64 light years , now how big is the absolutum i have no any information , and never heard of any one talk about it but lets see , a space that could contain 10 in the power of 49
smaller spaces that each is at least ten in the power of 64 light years and lets say they are not touching each other i mean thy are freely floating in the prime creation ( absolutum ) i can guess something like ten in the power of 10
in the power of 100 light years , that would be a logical guess .I hope that was helpful .

--shnool 01:32, 19 August 2010 (BST)
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== ory said ... ==

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hey shnool thats what i call an answer , thanks so much .i can really relate to 10 in the power of 100 .

--ory 01:36, 19 August 2010 (BST)
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== ory said ... ==

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hey shnool thats what i call an answer , thanks so much .i can really relate to 10 in the power of 100 .

--ory 01:36, 19 August 2010 (BST)
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== shnool said ... ==

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by 10 in the power of 9 i meant 10 in the power of 49 forgive my typo .by the way its time to upgrade the old impala to a newer one but trust me GM has a long way till putting hyper space jump in its cars . good luck .

--shnool 01:39, 19 August 2010 (BST)
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== Suv said ... ==

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Within an Universe, the possibility of many different space-time configurations exists. So just like our own DERN Universe contain many space-time configuration, the DAL Universe also contain many space-time configuration. DAL Universe is not a space-time configuration of the DERN Universe - neither it is appropriate to take one of its space-time configuration and compare it with our space-time configuration in DERN Universe. Just that the DAL Universe was born a fraction of a second after the DERN Universe.

--[[User:Suv|Suv]] 15:35, 21 August 2010 (BST)
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== jjjjjeyyyy said ... ==

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several sources say that the universe has no end to it , then they go on and say there is universal barriers that separate universes .how could something have no end and at the same time be separated with a barrier . someone please answer this to me please .

--jjjjjeyyyy 22:41, 21 August 2010 (BST)
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== jjjjjeyyyy said ... ==

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several sources say that the universe has no end to it , then they go on and say there is universal barriers that separate universes .how could something have no end and at the same time be separated with a barrier . someone please answer this to me please .

--jjjjjeyyyy 22:41, 21 August 2010 (BST)
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== Suv said ... ==

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jjjjjeyyyy, at many places, the term Creation is used to describe the Universe, whereas at some place it is used in a broader sense encompassing our Universe, higher form of Universe, the Absolutum forms etc. The context is important here since Creation is infinite while the Universe is not.

It was however mentioned that the "end" of the Universe could not be reached. This is true in the context that there is no end of a double spiral. At max (imagine going sideways), only the Ur-space region and the transformation belt can be reached, which are again not the "end" of the Universe.

Only in this special case in which an artificial tunnel 100,000km long and 70 km wide has been built that penetrates the outer two belts of the DERN and DAL Universe, make travel between the two Universe possible. This tunnel is strategically constructed where the length of the tunnel required was to be the shortest (as the width of the belts are not uniform everywhere).

--[[User:Suv|Suv]] 17:15, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Suv said ... ==

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jjjjjeyyyy, may I further explain:

The Universe is in fact a clockwise-counterclockwise rotating double-helix, egg shaped configuration in 7 fold form. The 7-fold refers to the 7-belts of the Universe. Just like it is possible for humans to give birth to twins, it is possible for an Ur-Universe (pre-Creation) to give rise to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,then 14,21,35,42 or 49 Universes. In our case, the pre-creation gave birth to twins - the DERN and the DAL Universe.

Our Universe belongs to the category of the lowest form of Creation, also referred as the Creations Universe. There exist other Universes in our Absolutum (1 Zahlanon), but as they not necessary nudge another Universe. So traveling between Universe is an exception, not a rule.

--[[User:Suv|Suv]] 17:22, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Suv, interesting explanation although I still don't understand the difference between Absolutums, Creations and Universes. Do you recommend the Spirit Lessons or perhaps the book Existing Life in the Universe to understand all this better?

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 19:33, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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I've been rereading some web pages and I think I understand now, I hope. I've read the text before but my memory isn't as good as I'd like. The DERN and DAL Universes are Creation Universes which is the lowest form of Creation or Universe. Its the only one to have coarse matter and it has possibly an infinite number of dimensions/planes/space-time configurations. There are 10<sup>49</sup> variations of Creations or Universes (each being an incarnation of the Creation or Universe), the highest of which is an Absolute Absolutum which can create Creations or Universes. But in Contact Report 260 Billy talks about 7 levels of Absolutums and it becomes too difficult to visualise for me. Am I right? ( I referred to [[Interview_with_Billy_(1998)#How_did_our_universe_and_our_world_come_into_existence.3F|here]] and [[Contact Report 260|here] )].

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 20:08, 22 August 2010 (BST)
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== Suv said ... ==

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I have no access to spirit lessons hence cannot comment.
Absolute Absolutum cannot create Creations Universe, but can create Ur-Universes, which in turn can create Creations Universes (like our DAL and DERN Universe). Creations Universe, after 7 progressively longer, but equal cycles of expansion and contraction becomes Ur-Universe and continues to evolve towards Absolute Absolutum which it attains after 10^49 cycles. All the 10^49 states of the evolving Universe are nothing but expression of Creation itself; so are the tiniest of matter and the smallest of energy and even the Absolutum Forms. In other words, nothing exists outside the realm of Creation, hence all that exists is Creation.
You are correct that only Creations Universe have a material belt and make possible material existence and physical laws as we know it. When somebody talks about the Universe, its physical laws, stars galaxies, humans etc., it is only this type of Universe, i.e. Creations Universe, which is meant. There are a huge number of Creations Universe as well as higher forms of Universes in our Absosulte Absolutum. All of them, after an inconceivable amount of time would become Absolute Absolutums. Absolute Absolutum further evolves toward higher form of Absolutums.

--[[User:Suv|Suv]] 04:22, 23 August 2010 (BST)
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== star traveler said ... ==

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Apparentlty there is 7 forms of the absolute absolutum :
1) Absolute Absolutum
2) Ur-Absolute Absolutum
3) Central-Absolute Absolutum
4) Creation-Absolute Absolutum
5) Super-Absolute Absolutum
6) SOHAR-Absolute Absolutum
7) BEING-Absolute Absolutum

Just similar to the universe sequence .

I truly believe that you cant find an end to this structural system .

Lets just do our best to evolve and finish our current evolution plan , by that i mean learn the most from our current life .

--star traveler 23:07, 24 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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billy meier says that electron , proton and nutron are the the same entity that jumps in and out of existence each trillionth of a second ,once its with a positive charge (proton), once negative (electron)and once neutral . They are not different separate particles .so in reality we can safely say that the reality that we live in is an illusion , and we are just programed to believe its real .we are supposed to gain experience from this illusion .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 04:14, 31 August 2010 (BST)
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== Ashegheaty said ... ==

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semjase lost her husband about 30 years ago because they had not sophisticated enough hyperspace technology . my question is how did jimmanuels father come to earth 2000 years ago and made mary pregnant if they developed hyperspace technology just recently .

--[[User:Ashegheaty|Ashegheaty]] 04:47, 9 September 2010 (BST)
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