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2012-03-01T13:57:24Z

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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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Peace in Wisdom Billy. May we be responsible for our own actions and step up against those Dark Ones that are now in control in our Worlds Governments. They can be known as NWO, Illuminati, VRIL Society, Skull & Bones, and they convene at Bohemian Grove!! I have seen evidence to support all that you have given, here in the USA in the Government where I have worked. I am aware that the Plajaren came and offered their help but were treated poorly and turned away. Now the Dark Ones and the Grey are in control of our Navy & Airforce & Secret Intelligence Agencies. The Army is ill equiped to defend against their technology. My spirit is awake and I fight for my life, they steel my sleep and push dreams on me and they have implanted my body to try to prevent me from meditation. I have seen things all my life but tell no one until now.
Billy, I need to let you know what is going to happen the way I see it. See YouTube for video "NASA Sun Objects", they seem to be destroying the sun. Is it possible the sun will turn Red and the Moon? The HAARP weapon has depleated our ionosphere. The ones in charge think they will live deep within the earth and on the Moon and Mars where we now have military forces. They are unaware that they are being deceived even though they have been lied to over and over. I tell them again and again but they do not care what I say.

Peace in wisdom Billy, You are a HERO in my book always and your message has saved my life so far! I have made mistakes but I try still.
I fear Ptaah has been taken to Aldeberan for helping me. Something about violating the Covenant?? But I called to him to ask for help for the innocent that are being taken. You need not reply to that. I only hope I have the strength you had in the past to face my challenge ahead. You should know that the Black Delta ships are back and they are making more in Dulce NM in the USA close to a place called Area 51.
Peace in Wisdom,
Kevin

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Samari said ... ==

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Can you help me with a land mark proximity of the 3rd Nuclear Facility in Iran!! Please..

--[[User:Samari|Samari]] 07:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Sweet6b9 said ... ==

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Sorry, I am unfamiliar with any land marks in Iran. My appologies.
Peace in Wisdom

--[[User:Sweet6b9|Sweet6b9]] 07:07, 3 June 2011 (BST)
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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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Things happen all the time but because now facts and figures get reported though out the world 1000 times faster than just 100 years ago ... because we here about every thing all the time as soon as it happens no mater where it happens at... we know about it with in mins. things always happen but thanks to radio TV the internet ect...we here about now and all the time over and over again...

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:14, 6 October 2011 (BST)
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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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i should add... things that happen now have happen 100 years ago 1000 years ago 10,000 years agoo a million years ago ./.. but now we just here about it now over and over again as soon as it happens ... things are getting worse are better... the world and its weather is just alive as a living world that makes changes to its self on a dailey bases

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:26, 6 October 2011 (BST)
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== Mrnorm said ... ==

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things arent getting worse ... ARE'NT !

--[[User:Mrnorm|Mrnorm]] 18:29, 6 October 2011 (BST)
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== Violetlight said ... ==

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I was wondering if any of you psychics or enlightened ones know what will occur on 28/10/11. This date is coming up really fast and i'm getting worried.
This is the official end date of the mayan calander and also for those of you who are into your numerology 2+8+1=11 therefore 11/11. This is significant I know it!
What i've read so far seems to be very pessimistic. I try to remain a positive spirit none the less but I would love to know the truth about this date.

Anyone care to ellaborate?

WHEN WE AWAKE WE HAVE TWO SIMPLE CHOICES,
GO BACK TO SLEEP AND DREAM
OR
WAKE UP AND CHASE THOSE DREAMS

THE CHOICE IS YOURS!

--[[User:Violetlight|Violetlight]] 17:56, 21 October 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Violetlight. hello and welcome to the BEAM wiki site:) I believe the answer's you seek are well written and logged here in the contact reports section. just use the search function and type in a search. I believe that Billy had explained that the Mayans stopped making the calendar primarily because their civilization was collapsing in on itself due to poor water supplies,devastating droughts, famine, and overpopulation, and they could no longer devote precious time to the calendar. according to this information, they did not possess any mystical knowledge of any sort and knew nothing of an "end of the world" scenario.

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 23:35, 21 October 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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28/10/11 = 28th of October 2011, no problem the universe is saved once again. :) Just another day in oddworld Earth zone.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 02:18, 22 October 2011 (BST)
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== Violetlight said ... ==

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Thank you for you replies and I can say I finally know. I spent months piecing together the puzzle and trying to make sense of a childhood dream I never forgot. The dream was a kaleidoscope of many colours swirling around. Ulrika! The violet light has guided me all this time. Archangel Zadkiel and the amethyst. I never really thought anything of it until my dad passed away last December two days after my birthday and I put an amethyst bracelet in his hand the next day in the chapel of rest. On the way home his favorite song came on the radio. :)
Anyway I looked this up a few months ago when I first heard about all the nibiru shindig and 2012 theories. Because the violet colour popped into my head. So I looked up the amethyst and lone behold archangel Zadkiel! :) So I now know my dad is o.k and it was something I did out of pure love and didnt even realise it.

I've always been interested in tarot and just general open-mindedness and I have to say the way things are perceived on tv or on the radio are shocking. IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE AND DOES NOT REFLECT REALITY IN ANY WAY! YOU CANNOT LEARN ANYTHING FROM TV OR SCHOOL OR GOVERNMENT. We learn only by looking inside our souls to the depth of our hearts.

I know alot of you are going to think i'm crazy! But please I promise you there is something amazing for you all if you want it, not just for yourself but for the benefit of all. Thats the lesson in life. The Pleidians have and are continuing to be amazing and they deserve our gratitude. Thanks for your help guys!
Accept the journey you are on and dont hide away from the dark. Face it without fear and you will be rewarded.

--[[User:Violetlight|Violetlight]] 01:00, 24 October 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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You can learn from TV, school, and government in certain way. Example would be school allows you to meet different people thus opening your eyes to each unique situation an individual has thus having a wider range of knowledge etc, and TV is great to learn cooking and such, governments of our planet well let's say it has a loooooooong ways to go before a correctly implemented structure but at least they are trying. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 18:48, 24 October 2011 (BST)
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== Cat said ... ==

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Violetlight - don't get confused with 20/12/2012 (or 12/20/2012 which ever date type you use), that's the end of the Mayan Calendar, not 28 Oct 2011. Although the 28th Oct is said to be important in the ongoing financial crisis we've had thrust upon us. It's believed our system will collapse by then (only a few days to go) and we'll be in survival mode in more ways than one. Hang on to your seats - we're in for a tough ride spiritually, financially and mentally. Other than that, I believe the Mayan calendar may just be like ours in some ways, it's near the end and so it begins again - nothing sinister there.

--[[User:Cat|Cat]] 21:53, 24 October 2011 (BST)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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you are the same as the people that are trying to run this planet .and i think if you understand what the et.so called pladians have done in time past then they are at fault to.now you want to give a woman a pill to stop them haveing kids.and you did not want to stick your nose in .give the pill to the men of this world not the woman. you wont do a thing about the weopons and the people running this planet as you say that you are sticking your nose in.so what is giveing a woman a pill then. population my foot deal with the important things on this world first .like nuclear and biological stuff first.you pladians think the same way has the powers that be on this planet .BACKWARDS. so much for being the inteligent ones

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 21:46, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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i bet now you will kick me of this site,the soon as a guy speaks his mind of you go.well lets see.ptaah why is it that your family are charged with the earth .started with sfath then you then quintzel.then semjase.asket.its one family who do you talk to do you sit and talk to billy or do you go home and report to them about things .if people where free to work the land and have there own bit then we would not need the pill this planet if one looks after oners self will carry more .you have to work it so each one get a slice of land .there is planty of space on this planet. no lets just give a woman a pill. now listen in or out no more playing games like you are gods in or out help or note .if so then help with the important things if not then go home and let things be the way they are till the big bang.you are getting to my karma yet you wont talk to me or face me one to one .you will say are but we cant stick our nose in.but you give a woman a pill. you talk to billy great but what the hell can one man do not a lot .so i through billy know you are there well done is that it.even if the whole world knew you was there so what then .you still cant stick your nose in as you say.get all of us to meditate then what we still have to work and do things just to live .i am halve way through the goblet of truth and so far i have to say its very repetative stuff. i know there is no gods tin gods or anything like that god is in everyman yeha. but i am no more of a man now then when i started to read it .i can go on for hours i am at the end of my rope.contenplating life and it dont look good

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 22:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Hi Blip,

I wont ban you as you are not being insulting or anything like that. You are speaking/writing your mind which is always good in my opinion (unless you are trying to protect someone from harm of course).

So you dont agree with the Birth Control ideas on this website? Is it because you think that it isnt overpopulated? Even when people live like animals in crowded, dirty slums. Dont you think everyone deserves to have a decent home with plenty of land around it so you can nurture nature with your own hands, head and spirit? I want everyone to live in peace without suffering and if that means birth control and higher taxes then I would gladly support. Weapons are also a problem I agree but anything can be a weapon in the hands of a psychopath and how do psychopaths come into existence? Does the trail of evidence nearly always lead back to an abusive childhood without love or wise parental advice on why we exist and our objectives in the universe? I think it probably does.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:05, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Why are you at the end of the rope? You sir/madam are a spark of Creation. We are part of the same being. If you suffer, so do I. Be neutral positive and remember that your problems are only passing. Even if you have a lifelong problem, it is only one life of millions you already have had and will have. And it can only get better as you reincarnate over and over until...pure spiritform existence where you can travel instantaneously anywhere in the Creation. Or so I'm led to understand.

Have you read http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Thoughts_about_Worries_of_Yesterday,_Today_and_Tomorrow ?

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 00:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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hi james. fist i want to say that i am sorry to get at you or anyone. i get so angry sometimes when i here that a person as come up with a silly idea to the population of this planet is to give a woman a pill. i dont have kids but wish i did.but i would not vote to get a woman a pill when i would cladly take it. you see a woman as each month as you know a period .well to me that would be for those who are tring to have kids would be wrong its cruel to let a woman know she is born to have kids but cant how does a person tell the woman of this world you cant have kids anymore you cant.i think that you need to do a council of woman from here and from the dern planet so you can both talk and decide what is best.2 life for some people on this planet is bad yes but that is only because of the people that are in charge greed as taken a hold of this planet and it wont let go yet..i think i understand why billy cant tell us stuff yet the more i find out the more annoyed i get with the way life is.3 i really dont think that the planet is over populated i think that they gaver in city and towns to be close to one and another like a big family i think that if we all had the same size land to work on and develope things i thing might be different.have you herd of the thrase catch 22 well i beleive that a lot of people are caught up in it..birth control and higher taxes wont do it you will greate more bad people .yes i am a spark of creation i know that but at this time i feel that the more i learn about things the more my hands are tied and it gets to me that one cant help people. as for the life i had before i dont know of it was i good or was i bad i dont know so where is the learning if i cant remember.let me ask you this if a guy come to you and says on the 21 december you will have a solar flare .is that it how long what time will it knock out the lights will it brake stuff will the people go nuts what. you cant say crap like that to people with out given them more to go on to decide to get wood or place to go or by stuff to be ready for it.as for me i am 52 and my childhood was no picnic but i know not to pick up a gun or a knife i was picked on and beaten but i never wanted to kill a person i am not afraid of death iknow that life goes on .its the monetery system that you have to get rid of first... i see what they are trying to do .let the population go down before the monetery system collapses that way you have less death.a guy will kill a guy just to feed his kid but if the population was smaller you wont have that problem .james are you like me just a guy that asked questions who are you. i am sergio leone aka leslie carter... do you know billy or his friends or am i just talking to the mail man down the street.lol..sergio

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 10:22, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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james you gave me a page to read and i did read it.the worrie i have comes from billy on his site it says that we will have a flare solar flare 21 december 2012 now you know and i know that cant be stopped so we have to deal with it good .but my worrie is will it last a week a month or a year will i need more food should i buy more should i get more water or juice .or do i just say what the hell and just wait for the day. must get back to the goblet of truth .thx sergio out

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 11:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Hi again Sergio, I understand what you mean about not allowing women to have kids but this is not what FIGU are proposing. They propose that the population can be reduced by having 7 year period of no births followed by 1 year of procreation/giving birth, followed by another 7 years of no births etc etc. Everyone can have kids as long as they meet the requirements, e.g. meet the minimum age requirement, get married first, dont have more than 3 kids, etc.
I'm not going to prepare much for any possible disasters here in Scotland apart from maybe buy a lot of long lasting food and water such as rice, pasta, water bottles etc. Perhaps 1 months supply. In Scotland we never have droughts though so the probability of starvation is low.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 11:50, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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== I said ... ==

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Blip,

You confused birth control with birth prevention. Birth control is a social project to limit the annual birth number, while birth prevention is an individual project to prevent the fertilization of female egg by male sprematozoa. The best way to do it, Blip, is not by giving pills to women, but by seriously applying The Great Law Of Coitus Interuptus, Blip.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 12:58, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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thx james for the reply.yes it sounds like a good idea 7 years of 1 year on.if there is no pill and its done by the peoples concent then i agree... by the way lucky you to live in the north scotland what a great place .when you mean water rice and stuff the solar flare is so big that i think it will take out power and cars that are now running by engine management systems and all electrical stuff tv .computers and so on maybe even a satelitte or 2..and you made me laugh about the coitus interuptus.lets get all the guys to have bells on.. thx james for all your help.salome.

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 21:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Blip, do you know what the birth control pill does? It basically makes the woman's body think it is already pregnant and then her body doesn't release an egg. Therefore no pregnancy can take place. There's nothing wrong with that and is very liberating for women because sometimes we just cannot rely on men concerning birth control :) Personally as a woman, I would not allow either politics or religion to make that choice for me. It's a informed choice to be made by a woman and her doctor, with of course input from the significant other. It's wonderful for women to have that choice and does not interfere with a womans ability to have children later on, in the case of the world wide birth stop. You are fretting about the pill for nothing.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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thank you sheila it is good to get a reply by a woman that is in the know.as a guy i have watched the senate in the usa and the british parliment debate abortion and a womans right to have or have not kids.but i think that there should be a womans group that should debate it not men . but thx for your reply i wish you well.i am now for the birth control i in my stupidness never went to the bottom of the page that said 7years of and 1 year on.i just thought without thinking that they had just decided to give a woman a pill to stop haveing kids and i thought that it was unfare but i now know what they are trying to do. sorry to all.next time i will read up more lol

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 17:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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hello. ok first billy you kepted that one a secret .the galactic federation of light.cool
if all goes well we will be in middle earth and things will change. cant wait. really looking forward to meeting all the galactic people .and to see who i was and what happen to me in past lives .it is almost to much to take in.but i need help i cant seem to meditate its so hard i try at the times you say but i guess i am waiting for a reply but not getting one.also when you tell people that things are going to happen and we will be all free and that et will help us to change and so on they look at you like you should be in a hospital lol.stillolypics are here soon and i love watching them .billy and the gang thx for all you have done and the rest of the federation that is working to give us a better live .love you all sergio

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 13:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I think they should create a Creational Laws rating system once the entirety of the populace has learned to understand and implement correct use of the laws in daily life a huge meter above the Earth goes you get a prize. :) After the longest tenured class in the universe planet you have finally learned how not to steal. As they perfect each law Earth moves closer to excellence thus more good things revealed. I don't know if my planet Earth has the organized bunch that can accomplish a massive total of 10-12 recommendations, it seems too much for our feeble bunch at this time. I say we work on one at a time. I suggest we separate everyone around the globe into there various learning categories. I don't want to be anywhere near the thou shall not kill bunch. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:53, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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I found this article very helpful because I am currently going through an experience that could be considered very negative for the health of one's own psyche but it is indeed just a mere episode and I shall not allow it to cause me any stress.

What I am experiencing is the temporary loss of my wife and 2 young children who are moving to Thailand, against my desire. I'll not see them from next Tuesday until April at the earliest.

But this article strengthens my motivation to fear not, worry not and grieve not, as it will simply be another one of those life events that are actually simply a learning experience that all of us human beings go through at one time or another.

I do need to try and understand how this event came about though and this is more difficult as there are so many factors: past events that affect the present, the compatibility of us as a couple, the economic factors that intrude upon our lives etc.

If I had a beamship I would not have to battle against the feeling of melancholy that I shall surely experience after they have gone to Thailand because I could see them at any time. That's a Pisces for you, I'm a dreamer.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 13:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Sorry to hear that James. Maybe you can set up skype and talk to them that way? Relationships are very hard and need constant work especially when the kids are little, there always seems to be a lot more problems. The biggest decision you're going to make is whether you want to stay together or separate, but looks like maybe your wife took that decision away from you? You can't change the past but you can recognize the mistakes and not repeat them. Yes, Pisces always want to be the peacemakers. Keep your chin up and your head held high!

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:55, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Thanks Sheila, yes she had a choice (stay together or not) although she says I gave her no choice because of how I behave towards her. I tried to persuade her to stay in Scotland for many reasons, most of all for the benefit of the children (they need both of us around) but her mind could not be changed.

I'm definitely going to use Skype to see them. Thank goodness for Skype! Its not so bad thanks to Skype. Technology is making my life less stressful that's for sure.

Relationships are not my strong point I must say. I seem to frequently say things that annoy other people, including my wife. Whether its because I speak the truth and they don't like it or I genuinely said something offensive I'm often left puzzling over it and their, often negative, reaction...

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Don't worry James the power of love, the greatest of all things anyone can learn will hold the fort until April. That's not too long. I don't know the details of your situation, but it sounds as if you have great affection for your kids but you also should listen to the perspective of your lady. Compromise of sorts. What's done is done if she is away now, time could make the heart grow fonder. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 00:19, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Thank you Mark thats sound advice. Compromise is mandatory when both human beings in a relationship are imperfect.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 19:28, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
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== RemR said ... ==

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I would like to add that as far as relationships go, when things are not going as I would like them to and I am feeling down in the dumps, I try my best to fulfill my responsibilities to myself and to others, be nice to myself and others, including and especially the other person in the relationship, and to be patient. Then the relationship will usually go the way that it should, hopefully.

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 21:27, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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biily first i do hope that sejase is ok and well . all that you have wrote above is good and i do understand it lets not worrie about tomorrow lets just get on with the day in hand. but i have since learned that from your site on the 21 december that we will have a big solar flare well i am now worrieing that it will be bad and i dont know more of what will happen so who do i blame you for telling me or is it my fault for the worrie i have given myself.i wanted to come talk with you but michael horn says no you are to busy.ok but some people really need more then to read bits that make them worrie.tell me not to worrie tell me that your friends have a eye on us tell me that if there is a launch of weopons that your friends will hep us so they dont kill us all.? if you get the planet down to 500 million what will happen to all the souls that was here are they in limbo or have they gone to another place in time or planet. there is 8.5 billion on this planet to get to the 500 million thats a lot of souls that have gone witch i dont think will ever be reborn again.i would love to sit down with a friend of yours one day and just talk and talk.never going to happen. sergio out thx billy

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== Mark said ... ==

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I agree with many things you write about. I think society has set it up so man is somewhat confused from birth with so many certain standards that should be met according to society. They say you have to marry at this age or earn this much, follow this or you are not a part of the popular populace. I think if each individual gains confidence in themselves and doesn't follow everything society says is right rather choose for themselves, our dear planet Earth will have find citizens all around to change it for the better. The problem is people like to follow at this current time, when they should follow that voice in there heads that tells them right from wrong. They just want to fit in I guess. Eventually I hope all people of Earth build confidence so our world can be built with all our voices heard.

--Mark 01:06, 15 May 2010 (BST)
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== Michael Gorman said ... ==

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I think there is a lot of good-sense in these thoughts; however, 500,000,000 is perhaps an unrealistic figure for the population. Exponential population growth is not sustainable-Truth. 2 Billion is more attainable.I fear that imposing this reduction could result in a Tyranny we have not yet witnessed-it will require very careful, humane implementation-and Consensus.

--Michael Gorman 05:17, 7 June 2010 (BST)
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== Mark said ... ==

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I also believe 500,000,000 is unattainable by our different cultural population figures across our planet. China is a planet in itself as well as India.:) If we only had another habitable planet Mars in the future or maybe in the past or the now gone Malona/Phaaeton we would be spread out nicely. I think if we can somehow miraculously reach the 2.5 to 3 billion range we have really progressed. We are at double or nearly triple that now. Hope we get a plan implemented in time before we end up like Akart.

--Mark 05:42, 7 June 2010 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Michael,

529 million humans are the peak number which is sustainable for the size of the planet Earth without over stressing the natural resources, based on ARABLE land suitable for growing food. However, there is technology like hypo-genetics, which does not require arable land to grow food.

However, the only way to reach this number quickly in order to seriously effect the negative consequences of a current and growing population of over 8 billion is drastic measures like sterilization, official sanctioned extermination of non productive, destructive individuals and other measures which will question the sanity of ethical humaneness.

But, then, is it ethical to continue overpopulation, which brings forth massive starvation, wars, and other negative impacts? Thus, the most logical and humane approach is to reduce the population to 2 billion and develop the technology to sustain this number until further reduction can be maintained. When Earth humans develop the capacity to find another planet for mass migration, may be the last option.

It's a complicated solution because of different political views, religious dogmas and of course, those in power that have no interest in these matters as it treads on their greed and lust for power.

--Hawaiian 05:45, 7 June 2010 (BST)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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in stead of giving the pill or spray or what ever you use to give a woman to stop them having kids .think of this why a woman give the pills to the guys so they dont get a woman pregnant. but can still have sex.see how many guys say yes then.i want to see you face to face billy or one of them so called et people you call freinds .you wont help with weopons or what the insane sods are doing to the people but you want to give a pill to a woman so she cant have kids .god i hate you et.s.

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 21:40, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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Talk:Contact Report 129

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== Markvd said ... ==

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There are some very "talented" people associated with so many members. Now the question is there talent being of a good or annoying nature. I would categorize this in the odd natured variety. I watched the show the Vampire diaries and I hear that Vamps use some form of combination eye and mental telepath which I think Semjase is capable of so you stare them in the eye and tell them exactly how to act correctly. :) When they do it in the show it consists of a couple of lines due to the nature of Earth humanity and it's smaller cache memory so keep it short and sweet and they might learn something. j/k OR you can just impulse there brains until they get it right, either way you shouldn't worry about man they have to find there own way. I find myself confused most of the time dealing with humanity of my planet Earth because as Billy said they have lost there natural flow or due many incorrect processes and feeling killing vibrations. You would have to be mentally sound to even find the human rhythm of nature which will take a ton of time to acquire once again without understanding spirit.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 22:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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billy i just read this and it was a beautiful story as in the sence that a woman (semjase)came to you for a great distance to talk you of a problem that she had its good to see that we are not the only ones to get in a pickle .i do hope she is doing well from time to time me and my brother do talk of her.if i could talk to her i would but wish her well for me.sergio out& bless you all

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 04:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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Talk:Interview with Billy (2011)

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== Markvd said ... ==

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I have learned that there is a very special 11 year old girl multiplied many times and that we carry over in a sense traits we have learned to a certain degree. I suggest everyone list down there worst traits and improve upon them to head down a more stable and creative path, rather than a barbaric destructive path. :) Thanks once again 2011 edition BEAM contribution.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:23, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I just noticed someone is cheating in terms of life on Earth all fingers pointed to "GILGAMESH" j/k

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 19:37, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Mark, along with the worst traits one should also write down their best ones to keep a balanced perspective. Also very important to forgive those that you feel have wronged you as chances are they did not realize what they had done.
I've always felt my essence was Justice - and that's probably why I called the corporal a liar, because he was one. But I've forgiven him because he's only human and only wanted to protect his fellow officers kids from being charged with a crime. I've even forgiven his fellow officer for following me to work to try and intimidate me. It's been a hard road standing up for what is right but well worth it.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 19:57, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I am going to avoid helping single individuals from now on and try and come up with a larger strategy to help all of mankind instead. I do not feel humanity at this time has shown enough to warrant effort, they must find there own path in order to really understand their own unique spirit. Many lifetimes from now they will get better but best to avoid them when they are at there worst.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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People are aware of what they do, it is if they choose not to do it to others because they are advanced enough to know right from wrong. It is true every lifetime is different but once they do something incorrect it is very hard to forget it because it remains until they pass on once again to the next life. People must be very careful and cautious when acting because people will see them for who they really are and it is in most cases not a pleasant site to see.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 23:10, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Leandro from Argentina said ... ==

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Hi I'm Leandro, I wonder if the pagan religions or ethnic continue to exist

--[[User:Leandro from Argentina|Leandro from Argentina]] 19:18, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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James- it looks like knaves have invaded this site again. uuugghhh!!

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 22:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Zameen,

Yeah, seems like "they" are getting more creative, but still appear with rather "odd" naming conventions.

Markvd,

That 11 year old Plejaren girl has been properly nurtured in an environment well suited for educational as well as evolutionary development. Gilgamesh's biological attributes have been altered for extra long life cycles.

Earthly humans are the same as other humans, however because their life cycles and other attributes have been tampered with, they must fulfill creational evolution requirements on a much disadvantaged scale, being bio-electrical-magnetic in nature with a psyche as other entities are, Earth humans have a capacity to catch up, if the environment to do so becomes condusive for development.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 22:44, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Leandro, it is best to lose all religious dogmas and indoctrinations. Must be tough to live in Argentina where most are catholic? There are parts of some ethnic/pagan beliefs that come close to the truth. But close ain't good enough! And if they are beliefs and you want a true picture, it's better if you lose all your pre-conceived notions.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 01:27, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
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== debbie said ... ==

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I have watched that interview on utube. It was great to see billy,he looks great! I thought they were very well thought of questions to ask Billy and it is really a credit to the children that they thought of these questions,well done guys :) 'Billy for kids' is a really great site, filled with great information that appeals to the younger
with some very cool fun stuff to do,such as flying the beamship,must admit even mum and dad like do have a go at that ! LOL. Our 10 year old daughter likes to go to 'Billy for kids' and read the stories etc.. and fly the ships. Thanks for all the hard work for making such a great site for the kids!!
Love and Peace to all :)

--[[User:Cupnsaucer|Cupnsaucer]] 20:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I disagree Hawaiian if there are people that can maintain high moral values in a world such as ours success is possible but trying to "manipulate" situations as you are trying to accomplish does not help that case. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 22:32, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Markvd,

The problem with the vast majority of people on Earth and unfortunately also on websites of this nature is that they do not utilize their true potentials in addressing both their spiritual development and environments through more than a three-dimensional prospective.

Meaning that one needs to view both their material and non-material environments and logically deduce the fact that because humans are so very familiar throughout the universes in these attributes including the fact that we are all biological-electrical-magnetic beings with a psyche that is encapsulated by a non-material spiritual force, similar in nature to a electrical CAPACITOR that stores and discharges energy it utilizes from these sources.

It is this capacity or potential to store both material and non-material energy in line with creational endeavors that determines to what degree one spiritually evolves. Stagnation occurs for everyone when the malevolent abuses the benevolent residing in the same environment. Therefore you have the former DNA manipulated ageing gene factor contamination which limits this capacity to 100 years in contrast to natural life cycles of other humans averaging around 1007 years, which is a 10 to 1 disadvantage to gain knowledge and experiences for the proper spiritual evolution.

The only way to resolve this discrepancy is to either scientifically deactivate this ageing genes and/or remove the malevolent ones as in the case of the Giza Intelligences so that the benevolent ones can now have an environment to evolve spiritually in the correct format. As also during Jmmanuel period, it was the Jewish leaders who stained the rest of their followers by persecuting the 5th prophet and getting away with it. Had some action taken place then, maybe history would have been kinder to their present day public opinion?

I take Billy’s suggestion to “act in the present” a step further and suggest we apply such measures to resolve what was done later, which should have been done earlier as in the case of removing those SOB’s, the Giza Intelligences in 1978. Had it been done much earlier, the world would certainly be a different place today instead of being influenced by religious contamination for another 200 or more years.

This is only one of many examples that if properly intervened to correct these evil events from occurring in the interest of the spiritual evolution for those following creational endeavors amongst the mist of these occurrences (environment) in a TIMELY manner, then evolution will be maintained for both ends of the positive and negative spiritual spectrum. For example we all know what happened to the millions, if not billions of lives loss when that insane IHWH-HATA translated as “Eye of God”, the Ring Nebula of Lyra was destroyed by some egomaniac IHWH.

We also have many such events to a lesser degree and some to the same magnitude but prevented by the Plejarens both included the use of nuclear weapons or research experimentation. History has repeated itself throughout the DERN universe and will continue on Earth as well unless a more humane approach is utilized.

That is to prevent any more catastrophes from occurring by offering spiritual growth or stagnation of different paths in regards to evolution without the possibility of the destruction of both particular parties who apparently co-exists on the same planet, but usually at the expense of those who endeavor creational methods. Thus, if one chooses through their own free will to become a parasitic SOB who engages in uncreational behaviors like greed, lust of power, enjoyment of seeing others suffer or belittled, actions that stimulate the lower primal animalistic part of their brain and not the higher functional areas like the Colliculus Superior, where the spirit resides, then people of these degenerative nature should be afforded either removal or incarnation to a planet where it is compatible in regards to this level of stagnated evolution which will most likely not be technologically advanced as to become a danger to the general population or other planet system.

What will happen to their former personalities is of no concern to me and should be suspended indefinitely until the damage it has caused to others are rectified by the victims own quest for spiritual evolution until the “Equational Potential Formulations” are now equal or in equilibrium status from all the previous interferences/abuses done by the malevolent ones.

Therefore, no manipulation has occurred just a balancing act of measures so that the necessary options are applied in the interest of all parties concerned who will continue down the path they choose through their own free will without endangering others or preventing them from realizing their true potentials. Such potentials can be verified by the Plejaren technology in analyzing one’s pass personalities and other pertinent information of thought registration and prediction along with future time period potentials of the Cause and Effect principle.

The creator overlords have done the ageing gene manipulation and benefited immensely from such acts while we have and continue to suffer its effects to this day. They may still harbor the intent to enact revenge and exterminate everyone on Earth, as it is their form of “appreciation” which distinguishes what higher forms of intelligences are supposed to be? There could even be some spiritual incarnation of less than desirable personality traits presently amongst us (the one that persecuted Jmmanuel is the same spirit form incarnated in the one that tried to kill Billy).

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 01:52, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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You should not evaluate things in terms of higher or greater than, rather who acts and is genuinely direct in there purpose. I don't care who or what name or title they may carry all are the same to me unless of course they have disengeniouse intent. like some. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 06:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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That's the biggest problem with the vast majority of Earth-bound people, including most on this website and the USA FIGU also, they limit and restrict their thinking and not encompass the entire spectrum of events leading up to the present day situations.

What is fair and humane justice if not acted on accordingly in due time, delayed action is delayed justice, the equalibrium status between the negative and positive forces are supposed to be equally balanced, not skewed for any extended period of time because of non-compliance by the forces that have the power to do so.

If one cannot or will not see this whole spectrum of events, especially so if it affects them directly are being ignorant to the fact they will not demand justice have no one else to blame but themselves.

As Billy says is so very true "we are all connected" and that includes the Plejarens and all others co-created by Nokodemjon himself. To say we have no right to make these connections from the lowest to highest is not creational, since creation is the process of merging not separation and that includes justice as well.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 21:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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thought never dies but enters into a plasma form then is dicarded into small particles which turn into food

--[[User:Spockstar1|Spockstar1]] 03:27, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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life is the most important thing next to having feelings . Death may be sweet to some but it is only a dispersion of your elements into hopefully something more interesting or worthfull

--[[User:Spockstar1|Spockstar1]] 03:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Thoughts are not generated into some type of plasma, (but can be technically integrated symbiotically) nor discarded or turned into food because how can fine energy be consumed as material energy are?

Death is the degradation of the material body, but the spirit lives on to re-incarnate into the next living person until the spirit evolves to a point it no longer needs a material body to incarnate in, thus it becomes purely non-material energy. Thoughts, feelings are all stored as experiences and knowledge that are part of the spirit’s evolutionary process to be merged with other spirits of equal evolution and universes, that is how evolution works.

From a single drop in a vast ocean of water, although many will feel as insignificant individual human being when compared to a universe, it finally merged as ONE with Creation in the Absolute Absolutum to create more things and has exactly the same components in the form of a spirit, a non-material energy and most importantly, the experiences and knowledge Creation needs for further evolution.

Negative energies are the results of stagnated spirits, which will not be merged with evolving spirits when the universe transforms from a material to purely spiritual one. What happens to these spirits when that happens is for higher intelligences to ponder on, however there are options to address this problem immediately through the E.P.F.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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== BraveKnight said ... ==

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Well said, Billy. Now, if only the ignorant, degenerated ones can take hold of their own lives in a responsible manner. Its all too easy for the un-knowing to sit back and waste their entire life away while allowing cult-religious hog-wash lead the way over the hills, valleys and mountain tops through the badlands of erroneous non-sense to the city of nowhere. In sharp contrast to this process of non-thinking, non-acting, non-developing and non-evolving degenerative style of serfdom is the salvation of reality. The truth, of which I am fortunate enough to be knowing quite well, thanks to my man Billy and the Plejaren, is that in which the knowledge of what exists in reality is made certain. I am quite surprised in this day and age, as it relates to the intellectual development of the Earth human, that the majority are still victims and prisoners of a self-inflicted delusion. And it is this I am quite sure that is very basic for people of any planet in any stage of development, even that of the caveman, that one should well enough be aware of the simple fact reality is what reality is and it does not need foolish Earth humans to assume that reality is whatever they find convenient according to personal preference or matter of opinion, reality is made a mockery of in this way. It is shockingly incomprehensible to me the way my fellow brothers and sisters here on this glorious and wonderfully arranged natural planet can be so dim-witted and oblivious to things of a very basic and fundamental nature. Its extremely embarrassing when I think of the way we are viewed upon by other intelligent humans in the universe as a model of a planet whose people that lived there couldnt be any more degenerated or delusional and actually reach the limit of the definition of degenerated and delusional. I dont see any way possible that this world is gonna snap out of this madness on their own and this planet and all of its inhabitants are doomed to suffer the consequences of self-destruction on the back of another world war or this over-populated planet is gonna release enough methane into the air from all the global warming as a result of all the pollution and too many people and the raping of this planet's natural resources to the point that the ozone layer, or whats left of it, is going to start to let in radiation from our sun and then everyone will die a horrible death that way. Myself, personally, I dont have faith or hope or beliefs of any sort. I am knowing of the truth and striving to comprehend the aspects of life and reality in general and if theres one thing I am certain of it is that without the direct intervention of the Plejaren in some manner or in some way, this planet is never gonna make it and mankind on Earth will be called to account for his evil, ignorant foolishness.

--[[User:BraveKnight|BraveKnight]] 01:28, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
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== Navneet from India said ... ==

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Q:-"Here on Earth there are various religions, different gods, many more in Hinduism. What about God and the gods?"

Unfortunate that people from west still hold a rather bleak outlook when it comes to oriental religions.

I am rather sorry to say that you have a rather limited knowledge of Hinduism, which always seems to be a matter of ridicule for you due to so many different Gods. Hinduism is one of the few religions that talk of the concept of Brahman - the supreme consciousness that Mr. Billy Meier so dearly holds as a teaching to the earthlings. What do you say of the Vedas (of whatever form it has been transmitted to present day and not withstanding the ritualistic portions of it)? Mr. Meier, your teachings are an exact replica of what appears in them - consciousness that is formless, has no beginning and end, resides in oneself as its attribute whole and so on. It is also said that the ancient seers of India saw through the fact that it is difficult to make mere mortal humans understand the concept of a formless, infinite creation and hence "good" attributes were ascribed to various "god-like" "forms" to make them atleast resemble a form, which will still be creation according to your own teachings, because creation is all encompassing. And Hindusm never said you will be punished if you dont worship the God forms. It said, you worship if you want to concentrate on improving an attribute of your personal well being. For example, Hindu people worship Ganesha, who is considered God of Knowledge. Yes, they may be "asking" for favours when they pray, but deep down, they also get to concentrate an aspect they would wanted improved within self (knowledge in this case). Thus, they are using idol worship as a tool for self improvement of certain attributes.

It is rather sad that though the Plejarin JHWHs were the ones who kept on getting the prophets to Earth time an again, religions were formed invariably around these figures, including Jmmanuel, Prophet Mohammed and Buddists, no matter how good their intentions were. Thus, the plejarin focus on banishing/criticising idolatory through Mohammad had its effect in the ethnic cleansing of so many cultures with rich traditions. Can I attribute this to Plejarins? Ofcourse, they would call me a fool for they will say "Earth man is responsible for his owm actions, through religious sectarianism and barbarianism". But how different are they? Their consciuosness may be more developed than us, but their immaturity is still the same as ours, the earthlings. Remember your story of Plejarin lady helping Merlin with the Sword of Excalibur (not so long ago for a race of humans living 500 years and up)

The point for your Plejarin friends is this, no matter which prophet comes on Earth through JHWH, there will be religious cults formed around them, including yours Mr. Meier. and the problem with all these religious cults is, intolerance and apathy towards others. Just as your Plejarin friends which seem to claim -" Please do this, everything else is wrong, and this is the only way". All human beings (Pleja or Terra) need space/freedom of their own expression. I am pretty sure Asket follows a different set of tenets than Semjase or Ptaah.

I hope your Plejarin friends read this.

--[[User:Navneettn|Navneettn]] 15:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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== navneettn said ... ==

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Q:-"Here on Earth there are various religions, different gods, many more in Hinduism. What about God and the gods?"

Unfortunate that people from west still hold a rather bleak outlook when it comes to oriental religions.

I am rather sorry to say that you have a rather limited knowledge of Hinduism, which always seems to be a matter of ridicule for you due to so many different Gods. Hinduism is one of the few religions that talk of the concept of Brahman - the supreme consciousness that Mr. Billy Meier so dearly holds as a teaching to the earthlings. What do you say of the Vedas (of whatever form it has been transmitted to present day and not withstanding the ritualistic portions of it)? Mr. Meier, your teachings are an exact replica of what appears in them - consciousness that is formless, has no beginning and end, resides in oneself as its attribute whole and so on. It is also said that the ancient seers of India saw through the fact that it is difficult to make mere mortal humans understand the concept of a formless, infinite creation and hence "good" attributes were ascribed to various "god-like" "forms" to make them atleast resemble a form, which will still be creation according to your own teachings, because creation is all encompassing. And Hindusm never said you will be punished if you dont worship the God forms. It said, you worship if you want to concentrate on improving an attribute of your personal well being. For example, Hindu people worship Ganesha, who is considered God of Knowledge. Yes, they may be "asking" for favours when they pray, but deep down, they also get to concentrate an aspect they would wanted improved within self (knowledge in this case). Thus, they are using idol worship as a tool for self improvement of certain attributes.

It is rather sad that though the Plejarin JHWHs were the ones who kept on getting the prophets to Earth time an again, religions were formed invariably around these figures, including Jmmanuel, Prophet Mohammed and Buddists, no matter how good their intentions were. Thus, the plejarin focus on banishing/criticising idolatory through Mohammad had its effect in the ethnic cleansing of so many cultures with rich traditions. Can I attribute this to Plejarins? Ofcourse, they would call me a fool for they will say "Earth man is responsible for his owm actions, through religious sectarianism and barbarianism". But how different are they? Their consciuosness may be more developed than us, but their immaturity is still the same as ours, the earthlings. Remember your story of Plejarin lady helping Merlin with the Sword of Excalibur (not so long ago for a race of humans living 500 years and up)

The point for your Plejarin friends is this, no matter which prophet comes on Earth through JHWH, there will be religious cults formed around them, including yours Mr. Meier. and the problem with all these religious cults is, intolerance and apathy towards others. Just as your Plejarin friends which seem to claim -" Please do this, everything else is wrong, and this is the only way". All human beings (Pleja or Terra) need space/freedom of their own expression. I am pretty sure Asket follows a different set of tenets than Semjase or Ptaah.

I hope your Plejarin friends read this.

--[[User:Navneettn|Navneettn]] 15:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Religions are very tough to follow because everyone that follows them tends to stray from the laws of creation. You have good points Navneet but I am guessing there are offshoot religions that copy religions in order to maintain and control people's minds, how can that be freedom when the development of consciosness is the ultimate goal of development of all thinking beings. In India they seem rather peaceful but they are overpopulating faster than madmen and have more wives than each male can count. :) I call that irresponsible in my point ov view.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:29, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Navneettn said ... ==

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Dear Markvd,

Thank you for your response. Again, I would like to reply to some comments of yours.

"I am guessing there are offshoot religions that copy religions in order to maintain and control people's minds, how can that be freedom when the development of consciosness is the ultimate goal of development of all thinking beings. "

I can tell you that Hinduism is perhaps the only religion in the world that allows Atheism. In fact, you have the freedom to follow your own beliefs or disbelief. The ultimate goal was still to percieve the supreme consciousness. If you believed that one's method of faith or non-faith would lead to the ultimate supreme, it was left entirely upon you. Ofcourse, over the period of millenia, idol worship and rituals took some centre stage through the high priests, sad, but it was expected. However, the openness continued. Even to this day, no body looks you down in the Hindu society if you refuse to pray to one God/Gods or enter the temple. These views are infact respected as the free will or choice of the individual and the thought process is "Fine, it this works for you to reach the ultimate truth, very well- We respect it".

Now coming on the point of population explosion, I agree with you, but I also consider your view a bit dogmatic and irresponsible when you say "In India they seem rather peaceful but they are overpopulating faster than madmen and have more wives than each male can count."

This is so because you belief of each male having more wives in India is medieval at best. We are not some Arabian camel grazing country where such things may be state sponsored. In fact, the Hindu marriage act bans polygamy (unfortunate that this has not been extended to Muslims in India as a uniform law due to the hunger of politicians for votes). In fact, the urban Indian society (Hindus, Muslims and Christians) have no more than 2 children (which is infact further going down to only 1 child in urban centres voluntarily). Urban centres are fast increasing due to migration with now nearly 40% of Indian population contributed by Metros. You can see that things are changing, and even the state goverments are giving incentives to rural India for less children (like rules of barring village headmen to get elected if they have more than 2 children, reduction of some perks for government employees with more than 2 etc.). I believe these are positive steps.

I sincerely hope that all of people here and FIGU and Plejarin shed their "BIASES" and "DOGMAS" about others that they know little. After all, we are all humans and to "judge" someone with sweeping conclusions is the worst thing you can do to an individual.

--[[User:Navneettn|Navneettn]] 14:16, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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It is actually fact males in India have more wives thus the highest population singularly in the world toppling China in that regard. That is not a bias or dogma filled remark, it is truth. I am not saying Hinduism is to blame, but I think that they use religion so they can get away with many criminal elements that do not follow the laws of creation. If you are a peaceful person that has less than 2 children I wish you well. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Navneettn said ... ==

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Markvd, thank you again for your reply and wishing me well, I wish you the same.

But please, improve your General Knowledge about the world affairs Markvd. Your statement has no basis:-"It is actually fact males in India have more wives thus the highest population singularly in the world toppling China in that regard."

I dont you from where you got that "fact". India is still trailing China in its population at this moment (check the latest figures). AND the 2011 census of India states that the sex ratio in India is 940 females : 1000 males. Your "fact" falls right there.

--[[User:Navneettn|Navneettn]] 07:41, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Hi Navneettn, I think the biggest problem I have is the Hindu caste system. Could you honestly say that if Billy Meier were born into a family of poor farmers in India, that he would have the same chance as he does now in his current incarnation? Maybe the spiritual teachings of Billy Meier are a continuation of the Vedas with needed changes?

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 17:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Navneettn said ... ==

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Dear Sheila,

Thank you for your comments. Ignorance is the biggest enemy of human society. Be it in the terms of "Creation" or even worldly facts. I am astonished by the authority with which people criticise others without even having done a preliminary study.I agree that Caste system has been a glaring problem for over a century for India. But know this, that Hinduism and Caste system are totally unrelated terms. Caste system was a societal system put in by administrators of the yore, and it was more mobile than what it is now actually. The concept of "untouchability" itself is hardly 500 years old or so. Vedas never preached untouchability and it never needed any changes. The message is clear. It is about Creation and Creation alone. Believe me, there is not an iota of differene of what Mr. Meier is saying and what Vedas say. It's good that atleast these teachings about the Creation are reaching the West through him. But to claim that his teachings as a discovery in the new world is totally false.

Now coming on the point of how, if Meier were one of the low caste people of India could ever get a chance to preach his teachings? I will give you names of people who have exactly done that. Read about Mata Amritanandamayi. She was born untouchable. She is accepted all over the world as a renowned spiritual Guru. SHE DOES NOT KNOW ANY LANGUAGE OTHER THAN HER LOCAL ONE (MALAYALAM), SHE IS A DARK FAT LADY AND THE WAY SHE BLESSES PEOPLE IS BY HUGGING. Another example for you is Sri Narayana Guru, born to the Ezhava untouchable household. He is revered as a spiritual guru amongst all classes of Hindus. So are medieval personalities in India like Kabir (famous as a saint writing couplets about creation) and ancient seers like Valmiki (a tribal hunter) who attained realization and in fact became a guru to "high caste" students and Rama, who is also considered an important figure.

So please, I request all of you here making sweeping conclusions, I request you to sharpen your minds and read things up. Marginalization has existed in all regions of the world. But to link it to religions is not true. You have to link it to institutions that administered the religions (Churches, Clergy etc.). Take in that spirit.

--[[User:Navneettn|Navneettn]] 13:25, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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So my big sweeping conclusion is that currently in India there is only ONE person who MAY fit that description. Only one person in a population of 1.17 billion? That's all you could come up with other than those that have already passed? I guess that answers my question that Billy would not have had a chance if born in India.
I looked Mata Amritanandamayi up on wiki and this pretty much says it all "'It was not permissible for a 14-year-old girl to touch others, especially men." I'm sure glad I've never had that type of restriction, I've been able to hug whomever I wanted to, at all ages of my life. Human touch is the most basic instinct but the Hindu religion restricts that? Do men have the same restrictions against them?
I've always been leary of so called charitable organizations as it's well documented that the majority of the money usually goes to administration. But you are correct, I like to marginalize all religions especially those which don't like to link their religion to current interpretations of such. So what is your purpose? To prove that Hinduism is better than all the rest? Because I'm not buying that.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 14:58, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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Dear Sheila,

Why are you so riled up? I always knew that's what people from the west would end up at. Reinforcing their biases. Not a word was uttered by me in the entire conversation of these threads in which I claimed that Hinduism is supreme. In fact, I was trying to explain to the original question in the interview to Billy about Hinduism having so many Gods. If you read the entirty of posts written by me, I was all along trying to explain my religion which Meier himself has failed (I dont see any mention of Hinduism, specifically old Vedic tradition in the entirety of the FIGU organization). I had very high hopes of a spiritual discussion on this forum. But all I see if people trying to just reinforce their biases. Just for the record, I dont believe in any one of the 30 million Gods that Hindus are said to revere. Am I an athiest then? No, I am still a Hindu as per Hinduism because I may choose whichever may I want to and ultimately I will still attain the truth, sooner or later. I believe only in Creation, which we in Hinduism call "Brahmann" and meditate. Regarding Amma Amritanandamayi, yes, there is only ONE person in 1.17 Billion, just as there is ONLY ONE Meier out of 6.8 billion people in this world. As per Plejaren, there are only 5 living on Earth at the moment. Is Amma one of those 5? That's something I dont know.

Alas, my quest for a more meaning discussion on spiritualism and theology stands unfulfilled. Best regards to everyone on this forum. I wish you all well.

--[[User:Navneettn|Navneettn]] 19:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Funny that people from the east assume that when a woman speaks her mind, she is somehow riled up. Well sorry to disappoint you Navneettn, but I'm not riled up, but thanks for reinforcing your own bias. Also thank you for answering my question, that it doesn't matter what you learn, your religion will always be Hindu. Maybe the Vedas did know a lot more about creation than most religions but they still chose to use ritual sacrifice and it was obvious from your previous post you don't agree with that but you continue to defend Hinduism and its perfection even when you know that it's not perfect. You want us to know about Hinduism but refuse any criticism of it because we are ignorant? How can we have a meaningful conversation if you've only come here to tell us how the Vedic tradition is older than Billy's teachings and doesn't need any updates. So how are you any different than anyone else who believes in their religion as the right one, who chooses to cherry pick the stuff they like and disregard the stuff they don't like? I feel that if a religion is not teaching ALL truth, then they don't have the monopoly on the truth. I hope Hinduism works out for you and good luck in your search.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 20:58, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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I think the real ? is what are these foods exactly that have the good and correct thinking processes. My stomach tends to like all kinds and forms of food unless of course it is raw and bleeding then I must decline. :) Sushi is alright though sometimes depending on the quality of preparation, I think that's why they Japanese live longer lives on average due to there natural eating habits.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 00:25, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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Ok so I am working on a science experiment and found that curry based meals raise testosterone levels in males thus the reason why China and India are overpopuled, I suggest a mandatory ban on all curry based products. The universe is saved once again. I suggest all nations watch for high levels of testosterone and hormone infused foods for controlled whoopie cushion sessions liminted to 2 children max. :) Thanks once again for you time my fellow humanitarians of Earth.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 00:32, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Amanda Cogswell said ... ==

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I watched this with my 5 year old daughter Kira. I Love Billy so much and I was expressing to her the sadness in his face when he was responding to the very last question. I think she understood. I hope she did. And everything that he states is highly important for the children today! Thank you Mr. Meier for allowing these videos and questions from the children. They are very much appreciated. I do my best as a parent. I wish to meet you one day soon. Much Love and Respect,

Amanda Cogswell, Pittsfield, Massachusetts

--[[User:Cogswellamanda|Cogswellamanda]] 00:24, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Blip1959 said ... ==

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billy first thx.i am 52 years old and i found out more with the billy for kids and understood more when i went through it.i think there for i like the visual things i like to see it being made not just given a finnished job. still thx billy

--[[User:Blip1959|Blip1959]] 04:14, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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