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Talk:FIGU Bulletin 48

2011-09-21T22:16:12Z

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== Alive said ... ==

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"An escape from reality is achieved with alcohol or hard drugs - or while human beings are religious or sectarian." It reminds me of Karl Marx who said that religion is somekind of opium for the masses.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 16:57, 13 September 2010 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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I wonder if some brilliant ET race bent on destroying our young developing minds developed alcohol and drugs or are we the creators of these deteriorating substances. Once again these substances give a decided advantage to the wicked. Do the traps ever end at weakening the populace at every possible level?

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:01, 13 September 2010 (BST)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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This is probably the most thorough and accurate explanation of the effects of cannabis that I have ever read. I am an ex-user of cannabis, both hash-hish and marijuana. Hash-hish (resin) most of the time though. I was fortunate to resist psychological dependency and never upgraded to heroin or other hard drugs except for LSD (which I have also tried several times in small doses). I've heard some horror stories about LSD though, like having terrifying hallucinations.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:48, 13 September 2010 (BST)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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I have to work with people who do Hashish, and to say it can be unnerving to be around them because they change their moods and thoughts from hot to cold. Yet they obviously don't perceive there doings as abnormal behavior.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 05:09, 14 September 2010 (BST)
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==

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The thing I like most about this article is that Meier never really flat out says to the reader, "Don't use soft drugs!" He simply explains all of the negative side effects, which are very numerous, indeed, and then basically leaves it to the reader to decide what to do. Of course, after one reads all of the negative side effects, I can’t imagine how one would want to start using soft drugs if he or she hasn’t already done so. Hopefully, if one who is already using soft drugs reads this, he or she will make every effort to take the next logical step of quitting.

I was asked to translate the sections on hashish by someone who was once caught up in it and who has now successfully stopped using the drug. This person, like me, hopes that this article will cause users to quit and non-users never to get involved.

--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 13:47, 14 September 2010 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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All I have to say is: "dude, where's my car man?"

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 18:10, 14 September 2010 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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I have some friends who use cannabis twice or three times a week. They are easy to get upset if they face different opinions about something which they think they know well. That is the negative effect of cannabis use that I notice so far. I don't think it degrades the user's ability to memorize and analyze or slows the user's mind down, it just makes the user feels that he is being attacked by people who have different opinions.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 18:30, 15 September 2010 (BST)
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== AlienUFO said ... ==

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I wonder what FIGU would say about medical Marijuana and cases of people having been cured of cancer for using medical Marijuana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis

Also about the new evidence that Marijuana might stimulate brain cell growth: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8155-marijuana-might-cause-new-cell-growth-in-the-brain.html

Please Note: I am not referring to Hashish, I'm referring to Marijuana/Cannabis.

--[[User:AlienUFO|AlienUFO]] 21:56, 22 September 2010 (BST)
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== RemR said ... ==

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For myself, I felt like it was time to put an end to the horribly bad, mind-crippling money-wasting, time-eating and motivation-killing habit of smoking marijuana, after having studied the Meier material and the available spiritual teachings in English for about 3 years. It (marijuana) just simply wasn't for me, and I knew it for a long time, but I just couldn't stop.

I finally decided to search the German FIGU site for articles pertaining to the matter, to see what Mr. Meier himself had to say about the matter. This took place after a while of basically not wanting to hear what he was going to say because I pretty much knew that, whatever it was, his view was probably not going to be in favor, and I wasn't ready to hear it at the time.

I found Bulletins 48 and 67 on http://www.figu.org/ch/ and immediately translated them into English on Google translate. This decision absolutely changed my life, because it fueled me with the inspiration to seriously consider my actions in a pensive and meaningful way. A few days later, on August 16, 2010, I just decided that I was done and that I wouldn’t use marijuana ever again. Just like that. This occurred after smoking it nearly every day for approximately 5 ¾ years (but with the growing inner urge to stop for about 3 years).

After a couple more days of knowing my commitment was real and true, I subsequently emailed Benjamin Stevens with the request that he translate these two FIGU bulletins into the English language for other interested parties to read. To my joy, he emailed me back on September 10 with the response that he would translate them shortly, as he needed a change of pace.

It has now been 7 months since I quit, thanks to the insight I gained from these two bulletins, which were “the straw that broke the camels back.”

I greatly appreciate Benjamin Stevens for translating FIGU bulletins 48 and 67 on my request, and for his translation efforts in general. Thank you, Benjamin. Just the same, I am also especially grateful to Mr. “Billy” Eduard Albert Meier for his exhaustive and thorough job in accepting and fulfilling his Mission for humanity on earth and beyond, and for all of the immensely valuable information he has made available through his efforts.

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 05:07, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==

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You're very welcome, Rem.

It is encouraging to know that some of the choices I make, with regard to specific texts that I choose to translate, have a positive and lasting effect on some who read them. This is why I somewhat regularly try to fulfill the translation requests of readers, especially when a subject matter appears to be of importance to a large audience.

--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 12:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Sanjin said ... ==

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AlienUFO, have you seen this study:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/06/02/us-marijuana-brain-idUSN0227147420080602

--[[User:Sanjin|Sanjin]] 16:39, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
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== D S said ... ==

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After reading of all the horrors of cannabis and hashish, I still missed the part of the discussion which justifies jailing people for cannabis. None of the putative evils of cannabis justify arresting people, imprisoning people, stealing their property and (literally) enslaving them. (Or shooting them, should they resist.)

This is the crux of the matter: justify the Rightness of police guns and prisons against cannabis users, if you are able.

On the other hand, if you can't justify arresting people for hashish and putting them in prison (like they do all around the world), then plainly say so, please.

Arrests. Jail. Prison. These are the salient issues people have about cannabis where I come from. And yet, these are the very things that somehow get ignored so often when talking about cannabis. Why is that?

--[[User:Doug Snead|Doug Snead]] 22:17, 22 August 2011 (BST)
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== RemR said ... ==

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The article is just simply about cannabis and its real effects, not the laws associated with it. I remember reading Semjase talking about our laws, that they were so illogical and inhumane to her that she was getting tired of their study. She said that somewhere between 90 and 95 percent of them were at least constructed wrongly and many of those were inhumane, if I remember correctly. She gave a percentage calculation of those, of which I do not remember the exact number, unfortunately.

--[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 03:09, 23 August 2011 (BST)
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== Doug Snead said ... ==

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Thanks for the clarification.

re: "She said that somewhere between 90 and 95 percent of them were at least constructed wrongly and many of those were inhumane"

That sounds about right to me.

Corruptisima republica plurimae leges.

In the US, most laws seem downright predatory.

There is, effectively, a government class - and the rest of us (those the US Government/Corporations treats as enemies: US citizens, and most everyone else).

It certainly feels as if the vast majority of US laws are used as means of preying on the people, and as tools to steal their wealth and property.

--[[User:Doug Snead|Doug Snead]] 23:16, 21 September 2011 (BST)
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Talk:FIGU Bulletin 48

2011-08-22T21:17:34Z

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Talk:24th November 2010 - A trip to a Ufology-related forum

2010-12-08T11:50:09Z

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== Newinitiation said ... ==

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Well as I have also experienced from these illogical humans some years ago where Michael and I were disparaging of these people's irrational conduct and comments I found that all they were interested in doing is cantankerously vilifying and condemning Billy Meier as a fraud.
They really like to jump on the bandwagon of the supposed authority figures like Gene Steinberg and David Biedny, Jeff Ritzman and TerraX or E.Visser and other like-minded stooges and theatrically go along on a bender into the never never land of plausibly denied.
But this is the classic example of where most of our humanity resides and I guess it won't improve for a very very long time.
Like some Pavlovian experiment gone terribly right as soon as you mention Billy Meier's name outside of the ufological forums which has nothing to do with the subject you still have people saying he is a fraud.
Imagine how harsh the truth will be for them when they actually find out that all along what Billy Meier said was true.
At least many people did hear about his case and that Billy Meier's name is actually on the map of the collective consciousness.
If Billy said by 2029 his mission would have successfully completed then I am guessing that 2029 will be the year of his sudden death.

--[[User:Newinitiation|Newinitiation]] 01:54, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Newinitiation said ... ==

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Michael's theyfly site is doing very well compared to the idiotic sites like paracast.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theyfly.com

Here is the traffic data for futureofmankind.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/futureofmankind.co.uk

Here is one for Figu.org
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/figu.org

--[[User:Newinitiation|Newinitiation]] 02:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Bigfoot said ... ==

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Overpopulation is the cause for this style of thinking on Earth. Too many new spiritforms that Creation created and they are trying to evolve in a world that is mainly here for higher evolved spiritforms.The odds are against us in finding groups of people who are willing to understand the problem.

--[[User:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] 04:33, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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If Billy had a grand entrance they would listen more carefully.:) Unfortunately the maturity of the whole is not there yet, there are many egos that want to be the ones delivering the truth. They are probably asking why did they choose this man to help us why not me? The easy answer would be to accept that knowledge can come from anyone or anything OR self created knowledge of the egomaniacal kind that have no bend in there delusions of grandure that will lead us further away from our full capability. Truth exists within all times and spaces it just needs logic and reason from the masses to gain steam.

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 04:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Suv said ... ==

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Ufology organisations are playing the same role with respect to the reality of ET disclosure as religion with respect to spiritual development.

--[[User:Suv|Suv]] 16:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Doug Snead said ... ==

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Ok, have to think of another way to approach it. Or that just wasn't a receptive forum.

What gets me is this: there were a number of predictions made via Billy and friends. They were recorded. Many were fantastic sounding at the time but they came to pass. Isn't that the crux of the matter? I'm trying to piece together what I can here and I have not yet assimilated all of this material. But there ARE some really tantalizing bits here.

Maybe select the juiciest, best, most provable of these examples. On the one hand, distill and soundbiteize this in an agitprop fashion so that the point gets across fast. Like, "Billy was told of X in Y. Years later, X happened. We can't un-write or un-publish that book." Then have the scholarly citations on this site.

But, I think you've probably done all that already. Maybe that wasn't the best forum. Pearls before ... dullards like myself take a while to catch on. I heard Michael Horn on a Sri and Kira show about a year back. So the outreach is getting the word out, it is having an effect.

--[[User:Doug Snead|Doug Snead]] 11:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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Talk:Contact Report 209

2010-11-02T04:40:28Z

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== Doug Snead said ... ==

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Billy: "... it has always seemed to me as if those irresponsible persons in America – who constantly cry for war, the death penalty, murder, manslaughter, and terror – see themselves as supermen but see all other people of other nations, races, and religions as subhuman creatures and as dog-people and scum."

This may seem harsh, but, as one born on a U.S. military base, as one born and bred in America, as one who has lost dear family members to the constant wars and military adventures launched by the American government, what Billy says here sounds rather accurate to me.

And yes, sadly, far too many American people consent to this power-hungry madness.

We have a saying in America - which touches on karma and sowing and reaping.

"Those chickens will come home to roost."

But we could turn things around - it is not too late. Some, many, Americans do not consent to the lying, the killing, the stealing, and the destruction. It is possible that sanity can take root, even there, and prevail.

We, Americans, do need help.

--[[User:Doug Snead|Doug Snead]] 21:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Interesting. Is there also any correlation between the morally bankrupt Americans and those who consider themselves to be Republicans or are Democrats just as bad or is it wrong to stereotype Americans into those 2 political parties? I think that the political party association is probably irrelevant when it comes to moral values of Americans but it just seems to me from what I see in the news that it is the Democratic party that generally try to stop war and its the Republicans that start them. I could be totally wrong here but I'm thinking of Obama (ending Iraq War & Afghan War) and Clinton (intervened/ended Yugoslavian War) and Bush Sr and Jr (started both Iraq Wars and Afghan War).

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:54, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Doug Snead said ... ==

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Jamesm, in the U.S. the "two main parties" seem to be a kind of a technique by which the corrupted political process there may be kept as predictable as possible.

As far as I can tell, so-called Republicans and so-called Democrats alike, with little disagreement, heartily support the many foreign military adventures that are launched in the name of the American people.

Sadly, most American adults seem to be taken in by the propaganda-river, which frames things dictated by government in a "bipartisan" way - as if agreement of those "two" parties was the same as reason, or was by definition correct, or was same as agreement by most people.

Small, so-called "third parties" in America are systematically locked out at all levels of the political process.

For example, to even get candidates on the ballot, non-Democrat/non-Republican parties (like Socialists, Libertarians... or anyone) must exhaust their budgets each election getting many thousands of signatures on petitions. That's just to get on the ballot. And there are many such things. Lip-service is paid to a free and democratic political process, but in reality America is now far from it.

Sometimes the two parties in the U.S. are sarcastically called "The War Party" - emphasizing their vast and singular agreement when it comes to empire building, war-making, and other forms of foreign military adventure.

I think the message people are intended to get is that the U.S. Democratic Party is a "peaceful party of the people" or "of the common man".

American Republicans, on the other hand, (to the rich) peddle a message they are "Pro Business". And to everyone, at the same time, Republicans also sell an interlocking message of paternal moralistic authoritarianism, with a thin veneer of hypocritical religiosity.

In truth, the American Republicans/Democrats have become two sides of the same bellicose coin.

We saw that pattern play out again in America the in last presidential elections, where political platitudes of peace (hopeful words), gave way to more of the same actions: perpetual war.

Still, I know in my heart we are capable of much better.

--[[User:Doug Snead|Doug Snead]] 04:40, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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Talk:Contact Report 209

2010-11-01T21:44:03Z

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Talk:Contact Report 212

2010-10-29T22:06:11Z

Doug Snead: wow & thanks

(October 29, 2010) Wow! First of all, thanks to those responsible for making this available to all people like this. Second, this (Contact Report 212) was really written in 1986?! If so, this is absolutely stunning and worthy of much study and attention.
([[User:Doug Snead|Doug Snead]])