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		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_448&amp;diff=14356</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 448</title>
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		<updated>2011-02-02T16:01:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rrozansk: Comment provided by Rigel Rozanski - via ArticleComments extension&lt;/p&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
How many dimensions does DERN have?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:00, 1 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If Ashtar could shift a portion of time and space to hide as well as the Plejarens in there own dimension where they reside there could be many secrets out there that still be revealed. We have only existed a couple million years as human forms and if Billy says it will tale a ton of lifetimes there is always something new to discover no matter how advanced one is. I believe quintillion or more was specified so there may be all forms of beings out there waiting for a high five from Earth humans.:)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 17:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Ptaah should not be too confident in his statements which borders around arrogance since he already admits on two separate occasions that they do not know why their signals are dissolved or reflected back from foreign ET&#039;s and that the Plejarens only go 100 years into the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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1.  &amp;quot;Also, we cannot fathom why our signals, if we aim for them, are dissolved or reflected back to us and, thus, do not reach their aircraft; consequently, we cannot establish contact with them, which we also haven’t tried to do for quite some time. With absolute certainty, it is also to be said that the foreigners do not maintain any contacts with the Earth people because our worldwide, all-encompassing detection devices, with which we can also detect the presence of our foreign unknowns, would identify such contacts.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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2.  &amp;quot;We only operate our past and future travels and previews under certain conditions, but not just to know the distant or most distant future, which is why, if necessary, we limit ourselves to a maximum time of 100 years for future investigation, while no boundaries are set for travels to the past.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Please compare this Contact Report 448 to Contact Report 433 which occurred 8 months prior to this report. If the Plejaren technology was the same then as in this report, then Ptaah needs to be more careful in his analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also as he alludes of leaving Earth to its own when Billy passes on while issues are still being played out here on Earth may also be their undoing if the Plejarens DO NOT pay very close attention to events here that will certainly have effects on them as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Contact Report 433 (clock running backwards)&lt;br /&gt;
Aug 17 2006&lt;br /&gt;
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Billy&lt;br /&gt;
Have you discovered anything new about the fact that such strange things happen to us in the Center, such as things which disappear without a trace, without having someone visible taking them away?&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, it is indeed inexplicable that Guido&#039;s alarm clock regularly runs backwards if he has it here in the Center, but normally runs forwards when he has it at home again.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah&lt;br /&gt;
34. We cannot explain all these incidents either. However, I have a suspicion that any number of human entities from another dimension are making mischief - perhaps out of the terrestrial future, whereby a justification for that, however, appears to be extremely puzzling.&lt;br /&gt;
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35. But it is also possible that, at the actual present time, secret terrestrial laboratories exist, about which we have no inkling and we cannot find out anything about them, because they are shielded against any electromagnetic vibrations from inwards to outwards and from outwards to inwards in such a way that even our possibilities of finding out and analyzing fail.&lt;br /&gt;
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36. This is absolutely in the framework of what is possible, because even though we possess an advanced level of technical development, this is geared in a particular way, as is the case with every humanity.&lt;br /&gt;
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37. Therefore, it is possible that, on the Earth, technical trends, and so forth, are pursued which are even more advanced than our capabilities, such as, for example, that electromagnetic teleportation-vibrations are generated, which initially manifest themselves in the area of their goal and then also disappear again without a trace, without allowing their origin to be determined because no coordinates whatsoever or other traces are able to be pursued and are therefore not verifiable.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 05:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
My personal opinion, as I said before, the answers lies right in front of the Plejarens all along and the reasons why Nokodemjion choose Earth to incarnate in BEAM, the Earth is the focal point, with various other incarnations throughout the DERN universe along with their respective personalities that link and inter-connect to other dimensions as well all concentrated with the very person who co-created both the Plejarens, Creator Overlords, including Argus the &amp;quot;Barbarian&amp;quot; and others.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is Nokodemjion, the pure spiritual BEING that is currently incarnated into a material Being, thus if the Plejarens need assistance, they can look no further and seek help from where he came from.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just my 2 cents, because sometimes it does not hurt to ask, even if one is far in advance to us. After all human compassion retains its validity from a material origins to the pure spiritual as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 05:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rigel Rozanski said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
@Ptaah &amp;amp; Billy, Beautifully put!&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Rrozansk|Rrozansk]] 16:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_501&amp;diff=13703</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 501</title>
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		<updated>2010-12-08T15:00:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rrozansk: Comment provided by Rrozansk - via ArticleComments extension&lt;/p&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t think the fine people of Earth can handle the truth in it&#039;s entirety without aggressive behavior at this time. I thought wikileaks was dangerous in giving names but it did give a good idea about who needs to step up and grow in maturity so we can get back on track and spiritual development rather than useless schemes and plots that are childish. Look at North and South Korea brothers and sisters destroying themselves or is someone pulling the strings of confrontaton?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Don&#039;t speak of absolute terms, because there are a few humans on Earth that are able to handle the truth in it&#039;s entirety without resorting to aggressive behavior. WilikiLeaks did do some good in releasing information on the Korean crisis, for once understanding the nature of “saving face” has been addressed on neutral ground where both parties including their allies have the truth being said by a neutral source (WilikiLeaks) with the whole world as witness.&lt;br /&gt;
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No way will China acknowledge its disappointment with North Korea accordingly to cable leaks, it will support unification by South Korea with the blessing of the US, so long as it’s not hostile to them.&lt;br /&gt;
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== JimmyJean said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When will be the correct edition of Talmud Jmmanuel be available for us?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:JimmyJean|JimmyJean]] 01:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ptaah:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It really was enough already that in the course of the years after the publication of the &amp;quot;Talmud Jmmanuel,&amp;quot; assassination attempts were perpetrated against you and that you always only very barely escaped all 22 attacks.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Only very barely, but always. An excellent fighter he is.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Maybe they should add another “attempt”, but classified as gross negligence by the Plejarens themselves, who through unreasonable demands (they admitted so) on BEAM that almost killed him! It is part of Billy’s nature to bring the Truth as it is, whether you like it or not, besides the Nokodemjion spirit within him adheres to the same principle.&lt;br /&gt;
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Billy once said to Quetzal “have fun with fear” when he mentioned how “barbaric” it is for BEAM to insist on free falling from their beamship to Earth and at the last minute have the Plejaren re-materialize him before physically contacting the surface!&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Rigel Rozanski said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Wow.. &lt;br /&gt;
very interesting. &lt;br /&gt;
I wish I knew more about the possibility forecast methods.&lt;br /&gt;
 - Also this report reenforces how human each and everyone is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Spectacular &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Rrozansk|Rrozansk]] 19:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s about time the Plejarens displayed some common sense of not letting the truth be known after 22 assassination attempts on BEAM! Had he done otherwise, Billy would have surely been exterminated by forces that depend on religious extortion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, one has to ponder, what else are these Plejarens not telling BEAM that has direct consequences for both Earthly and universal applications? One topic for sure refers to Fluidual forces and the reasons why they won’t allow any pictures being taken, because they are still material in nature. That is why spiritual topics can be double-edged and should be closely monitored by not just material Beings, but BEINGS as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe there will be 23rd and 24th assassination attempts. I will not get interested to know about those things. He will survive again.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 15:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hawaiian said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It would be very unfortunate to witness an assassination of Billy Meier and short-circuiting the spirit of Nokodemjion of further experiences here on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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He represents ALL dimensions as well as the good and evil ones he co-created in the DERN universe, so much is to be derived from BEAM, if only one takes the time and effort to discipline themselves through the materials he has done so far.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many connections are to be derived that are &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; for those to discover, if you just study with an open mind and connect it yourself.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 03:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rrozansk said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
@alive&lt;br /&gt;
- LOL is that true about the free falling to earth&amp;gt;?!&lt;br /&gt;
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- I&#039;d love to see where it says that.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Rrozansk|Rrozansk]] 15:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_501&amp;diff=13649</id>
		<title>Talk:Contact Report 501</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://future.figucarolina.org//w/index.php?title=Talk:Contact_Report_501&amp;diff=13649"/>
		<updated>2010-12-05T19:32:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rrozansk: Comment provided by Rigel Rozanski - via ArticleComments extension&lt;/p&gt;
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== Markvd said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t think the fine people of Earth can handle the truth in it&#039;s entirety without aggressive behavior at this time. I thought wikileaks was dangerous in giving names but it did give a good idea about who needs to step up and grow in maturity so we can get back on track and spiritual development rather than useless schemes and plots that are childish. Look at North and South Korea brothers and sisters destroying themselves or is someone pulling the strings of confrontaton?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 20:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== JimmyJean said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When will be the correct edition of Talmud Jmmanuel be available for us?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JimmyJean|JimmyJean]] 01:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alive said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Ptaah:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It really was enough already that in the course of the years after the publication of the &amp;quot;Talmud Jmmanuel,&amp;quot; assassination attempts were perpetrated against you and that you always only very barely escaped all 22 attacks.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Only very barely, but always. An excellent fighter he is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== Rigel Rozanski said ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&#039;commentBlock&#039;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Wow.. &lt;br /&gt;
very interesting. &lt;br /&gt;
I wish I knew more about the possibility forecast methods.&lt;br /&gt;
 - Also this report reenforces how human each and everyone is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Spectacular &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Rrozansk|Rrozansk]] 19:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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