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Talk:Contact Report 125

2012-08-24T22:47:37Z

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== Alive said ... ==

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I wonder how many Jacobuses on this planet. Men who need female partners to be able to see the broader picture of reality, which in itself is a fragment of another broader picture, which, in the final analysis, is a cell in the much more broader picture of reality.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:05, 6 September 2011 (BST)
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== Sheila said ... ==

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Good job, Benjamin. And very much appreciated.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 03:17, 7 September 2011 (BST)
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== Barbarian216 said ... ==

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What I find puzzling from this contact report from another more recent one in which Billy avoiding an head on car collision that Semjase expressed gratitude that Billy’s family (Eva and kids) were saved, but Billy expressed some regrets that his “other” family member, Gilgamesha was not included as well. She was severely disabled by another car collision and certainly weighed heavily on Billy’s mind, not too mention his brother being killed by a drunken driver.

These things certainly have a very negative effect on one’s psyche as Semjase admits. But what I’m concerned about is whether the Plejarens did a more thorough investigation as to the actual causes of these accidents occurring to Billy’s immediate family and friends or rather if some other sinister influences were responsible for causing such events to occur? It would not have been an isolated case since constant interferences in BEAM’s work has always occurred and continue to this day. Those who are proficient in the German language would probably find some indicator(s) in the translations if they do exist?

Billy:
… Well,… it really hits me, because even if one has already often experienced the same, it still lashes out on the psyche again and again. One really doesn't like to lose a human being.

Semjase:
173. I don't, because in your life, you already have so many things that must be processed and taken in, by which many other human beings would be broken.

Analyzing the ancient Lyrian and Vegan names of both the male and female gender, one cannot help but notice the majority has similar characteristics, but in some cases (mostly males) are stand alone and bear negative connotations like in the names of Deukalon = “Self-serving Man” or Dakar = “Hot Blooded Man”.

Yet if one was to “formulate” a different combination as to “enhance” these characteristics, say pairing a female named Flujdasa = “Woman who knows the Non-Comprehensible and the Non-Ascertainable” to a male named Geblemon = “Man who knows the Solution”.

Logically Flujdasa and Geblemon will hopefully produce an offspring with a combination from both parents that bear an enhanced human version. Never mind the free will of love, it’s the mission that really matters. Naming of humans are very important and should be compatible to their particular characteristics and attributes not because the name sounds good in the hopes some positive factor will result because of that name (which is abuse).

As often in ancient Hawaiian culture, some names are strictly reserved for only those that have a certain characteristic otherwise unfortunate events will occur if it is not compatible for those who once had those names will not “merge” into higher evolutionary status if the current personality does the opposite of what that name represents. At least on a material Conscious plane this endeavor is valid and probably the reason why the living Plejaren all have unique names.

Mahalo for the translations Benjamin Stevens, I’m just waiting for someone to log in with the name of Gotamas = “The Man Who is Greater Than a God”! Then all of our problems will be resolved especially the females, would you care to make that change Alive?

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 00:47, 8 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Aloha Hula-hula Hawaiian,

All of those names seem nice for me. So far I did not find any name with negative connotation. Some names seem close to Greek, some close to Sanskrit. The most intriguing name I found is Driada (Tree Nymph), which triggers a formation of fantasy in my mind. I do not why, and, as you may have guessed, I do not care much.

"Lyra" and "Wega" seem like a word play for me. Lyra is harp, Wega is harp player. The instrument and the operator. Are Lyran and Wegan languages two radically different languages, or are they two dialects of a single language?

Mister Billy's saying about sadness related to the dead persons is interesting. It seems to me that he was talking about parting, not about death, but I am not sure. I will read his words again tonight.

“The Man Who is Greater Than a God”? Could he handle the hysteria of Stormy Woman?

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 12:49, 8 September 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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I find it a little puzzling that in Contact Report 124 which occurred in Nov 1974, Billy speaks of the unfortunate car accident of his daughter Gilgamesha which did not occur until the 1990’s.

Contact Report 124, Nov 11 1974

Semjase:
4. I'm talking about the fact that you and your family, your wife, Methusalem and Eva, escaped from a serious accident only by your presence of mind and by your quick reaction.

Billy:
Oh, you know that already? Moreover, Atlantis and Gilgamesha also belong to my family, and the two weren't there when it crashed. Thus, you are illogical when you speak of my family, because it was truly only a part of my family.

Contact Report 125, Dec 11 1979

Semjase:
169. Gilgamesha will succumb to a very serious car accident and will become severely disabled at the beginning of the nineties, around the time she comes of age.

Contact Report 239, Dec 20 1991

Billy:
Of course. Then that is also clear. – Well – you are surely oriented over the fact that our child, Gilgamesha, had a very serious car accident on the 9th of August, such that since then, she can no longer hear and can no longer speak, and also her arms, hands, and fingers are no longer fully functional, as she must also learn to walk again and still carries a metal frame on her right leg, from which several large screws are screwed into the flesh and into the bones. She also suffered a double fractured pelvis, and her left leg was also severely fractured. I don’t want to speak of all the open wounds on her head, body, arms, legs, and hands, nor of how much of her had to be stitched and that Gilgamesha lay in a coma for several weeks. But why am I telling you all this, for you will, indeed, know everything? Just why didn’t you tell me anything about it? It certainly would have been better for me if I could have prepared myself for it. I knew absolutely nothing about the fact that Gilgamesha had such a bad destiny for these evil events.

Ptaah:
99. But know, my friend, that your daughter in no way exhibited such a destiny, so the event happened by a stroke of fate that resulted from the unfortunate circumstance that she was, exactly at that moment, in that place where she became hit by a man with his vehicle, a man who knows and respects no responsibility for anything or any other life except his own.

100. Thus, no determination was available for this event; rather, it was a stroke of fate that could have only been seen by a certain foresight.

There appears to be some negligence on the part of the Plejarens when they time shift into events that have negative connotations towards Billy’s psyche by tragic misfortunes to his immediate family, in this case his daughter Gilgamesha. They could forecast her unfortunate car “accident”, but did not investigate deeper into the causes of such mishap is puzzling indeed since their technology should have indicated its Cause and Effect without any problem, IF they had the initiative to do so. The Plejaren and High Council speaks about avoiding activities that damage the psyche, yet in this regard remain silent I find bewildering and often wonder if a directive or protocol is more important than the well being of an individual?

Thus in this case as well as others, I see some lack of compassion on their part and often question if they are really up to task on events occurring in the SOL and DERN areas of responsibility or they should modify their approach in regards to often unique circumstances that often require inputs from those that are most affected by such forces? In other words, they would surely benefit if they “perceive” these circumstances from the point-of-view of those living and coping in these conditions that often border between the Creational and Non-Creational attributes.

They have the technology to do in depth investigations in regards to personality inferences both forward and backward which influences the current psyche, yet still adhere to Creational directives which are “derived” from a source of Ur origins that often have not been subjected to negative influences as witness repeatedly in this SOL area of responsibility.

What needs to be implemented is the “intent” of Creational aspirations, when there is a conflict of sorts, both should be separated, analyzed thoroughly to determine the Cause and Effect as well as the Not-Cause and Not-Effect and other attributes, weigh the “potential” outcomes through valid representations, then utilize the necessary reasonable HUMANE logical approach to ensure that both the positive and negative forces are given equal access for spiritual evolution without being destroyed, if one chooses to do so, then it should be self inflicted without affecting the rest that endeavor toward Creational evolution.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:57, 8 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Hula Hawaiian,

I think it is safe to speculate that mister Billy was talking about melancholic effect of parting on human psyche. Melancholia is the feeling about something good, something kind that will go and never return. In this context it concerns about person who is dying or will die, whether familiar or unfamiliar to the feeler (the person who feels melancholia). While he saw a person was dying or heard that a person just died the feeler knows that the personality of the dying or just died person will stop forever. Although he understands that the spirit of the dying or just died person will reincarnate, reenter material realm via an embryo, he also understands that the embryo will become another person with different personality, which might be not as kind as the previous personality. In the moment of death the parting between the feeler's personality and the just died person's personality was happening, and it triggered a melancholia in the feeler's psyche, since he knows that their current personalities will never get to know each other again anywhere.

PS: I do not have any supporting data for my explaination above. Heck, I just made it up, man.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:32, 9 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Semiase said "For my part, I would be very glad if through the given list of names, these old names, which are also still current with us, would find use again on Earth, for they are truly value-containing." <Line 191>

I think that she meant the mentioned names are metaphors which carry ethical values which could stimulate Earth human life forms to think about ethics in their social life.

Some explaination about ethical value could be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(personal_and_cultural)

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:05, 13 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Mr. Cleese I must say I agree. Given that each name carries with it a selected occupation or a tendency that would seem to be a description of what that person would have a propensity for. My only question is how do they know this person will embodie such a trait wben tbey are born?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 16:02, 13 September 2011 (BST)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Aloha Zameen, my friend,

You have a good point, I think there are two avenues of approaches, the fortunate ones with the technological means to validate one’s potentials and match their attributes to a proper name representation through historical data and time shifted analysis along with past and current personality integration values with its appropriate links to other non-related personalities it may have influenced both positively and/or negatively.

These traits are then incorporated into whether the person is born on a certain date to a particular couple whose attributes are also considered will have bearing on which name is most appropriate for its gender be it male or female. During a forum discussion one person mentioned that some Plejaren couples have given birth to a baby that has already evolved into a half physical spiritual Being, but whether true or not has to be verified.

Then, unfortunately those without these measures have to rely on genealogical family tree and historical data to determine which name is properly chosen or that person will need to change their name to something more appropriate.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:42, 13 September 2011 (BST)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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That's cool, but what if a name is tough to match a person, would they be the unfathomable one or the question with a answer, the endless curiosity, the prolonged endurance. I seem to match these newly adopted names to a majority of Earth humanity. Each planet should only allow the population amount to match the names so overpopulation cannot prevail. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 02:47, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Lord Zameen,

I assume that the mentioned names are metaphors. They are not titles of professions or ranks. They were composed to stimulate Earth human life forms's brains to think about ethical values related to the names. The name "Gralon" (The Man who Makes Bowls), for example, is not intended to be used by bowl makers (bowl craftsmen). Anyone could use a name if he likes it, if he feels in tune with the name and its related ethical values, even if his profession has nothing to do with bowl production and he did not come from a bowl makers family or bowl collectors family. I assume it has nothing to do with birth, occupation, and tendency of the person who picked the name, my Lord.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:38, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian-thank you for your possible clarification on this matter. It was my idea that since it was not reccomended to try and access spirits in their "other world", that everyday plejarens would not use these means for the naming process. So there is your rather complicated sounding approach, which boiled down to a process, has its merits, but at the same time it begs the question: "Are you and Mr. Cleese aka, Alive, proposing a similar process?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 05:36, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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== Zameen said ... ==

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Hawaiian-thank you for your possible clarification on this matter. It was my idea that since it was not reccomended to try and access spirits in their "other world", that everyday plejarens would not use these means for the naming process. So there is your rather complicated sounding approach, which boiled down to a process, has its merits, but at the same time it begs the question: "Are you and Mr. Cleese aka, Alive, proposing a similar process?

--[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 05:36, 14 September 2011 (BST)
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== Barbarian216 said ... ==

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Zameen,

I'm just docking this post forward and will respond soon as the material was worked on but pushed back because of another priority project.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:32, 5 October 2011 (BST)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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I wonder what means 'Semjase'?

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 23:47, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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Talk:Jmmanuel

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== Rafael Bernardo Aponte said ... ==

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Billy,desde sur america y desde este 2010 despues de jmmanuel sentimos que tu alma es muy semejante a la de él. Es tu secreto.

--Rafael Bernardo Aponte 02:12, 14 July 2010 (BST)
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== TheUFOGuy said ... ==

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Are horus, budda, Laozi, romulus tammuz, perseus. PLajaren or lyran human hybrids?

--[[User:TheUFOGuy|TheUFOGuy]] 07:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Jamesm said ... ==

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Unknown

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:05, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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Hi.

I have read about Jmmanuel and his mother Mary. Jmmanuel was a son of Gabriel the Angel. Jmmanuel was half-Plejaren and half-earthly man. Mary was a Lyran descent. Is her first language and beliefs were Lyran and creation laws? Later, she practiced with second Hebrew (or Aramaic) and Judaism. Is it right? Please me know. You can teach me, I would be appreciate.

Thanks.

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 23:21, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Jmmanuel's father was Gabriel a Plejaren human an certainly NOT a religious angel (which is an insult to all Plejarens)! And why would Mary, his mother want to be even associated with the Hebrews, whose Jewish leadership were the very ones who persecuted Jmmanuel and conspired with the Egyptian leader's son, paving the way for the Roman's band of "justice"?

The only way to learn about the Truth is to flush your system of ALL religious contamination and observe with a clear sight.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 04:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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Hi, Billy.

Jmmanuel was a son of Gabriel the Angel. Jmmanuel's mother (Mary) was Lyran descent. Her first language was Lyran, and second Aramic (or old Hebrew) language. Is it right?

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 22:31, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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Oh, sorry. I think my common was gone. I have been send again. But I get your reply.

No, I didn’t say it is a religious angel, Hawaiian. I know they are the laws of creation.

I have got a video of Billy Meier interview (2011). I read with their English subtitles because I am deaf and sign language. I understand what Billy Meier said they are Plejaren humans. I mean who Mary was, or where Mary did come from.

I don’t believe in religious. I believe in creation laws. I like Plejarens, Billy Meier and creation laws.

Please you understand me.

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 23:03, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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I forget writing to you. My sorry, I have mistaken about wrong "Gabriel the Angel". I understand what did Billy say they are Plejaren humans because I get video's English subtitles. A word "angel" is used by religions. I don't agree with religions. I agree with creation laws.

Salome.

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 11:11, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Markvd said ... ==

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In order to follow and understand creational laws you must first understand ones own limitations of thought, once you gain confidence through truth you will be able to follow the laws of creation without even thinking about it most of the time, it will come naturally once you find your true self. :)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 18:26, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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Markvd, thank you. I will.

Salome.

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 21:31, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Wolverine,

Actually Billy Meier does not read these comments unless being advised by one of his most trusted inner circle of friends and colleagues to do so. He would be more appreciated if one finds the answers internally from the materials at hand and is so busy with other matters disseminating much higher forms of creational endowments so that those at the lower evolutionary levels can have the opportunity to move into higher states of consciousness.

Now, don’t worry or expend any unnecessary energy on religious matters as its dogmas and beliefs are like a bad case of internal diarrhea which if not expelled from the body immediately, will cause much illness to the mind and body. So it’s best to flush it completely and not even try to “readjust” its corruptness and impurities by associating its meaning to creational materials as the Pope is trying to do with some of Billy’s statements.

I do not know the historical or genealogy aspects of Mary or why she was chosen, maybe someone else can answer that question for you. What I do remember from the Plejaren Gabriel and Mary’s union, which resulted in the birth of Earth’s 5th prophet Jmmanuel, is that the spirit of Gabriel is now incarnated in present day Quetzal. So the connection of this union continues beyond the Earthly domain and re-establishes its boundaries into the Plejaren’s as well, material consciously speaking.

That is why it is so important to know one’s roots or connections as there are over 55 million formerly ET spirits currently incarnated in Earthly humans who have origins from the Lyrian, Vegan and other worlds, yet most do not know about it because of evil religious doctrine that states their “god” has a monopoly over their destinations which is heaven or hell and FEAR. Even so, these 55 million have one time or another, had some type of connections or interactions to other Earth humans during their prospective life cycles. So yes, even those outside of these former ET’s are also connected and it would behoove them to follow the creational path back to their origins and at the same time move forward in a positive evolutionary direction.

This can be done through meditation, recognizing your 6th and 7th senses and other methods described in BEAM’s materials including participating in the Peace Meditation held every 1st and 3rd weekend of each month.

It least you have the courage to admit your misunderstanding and continue to evolve past religious dogmas, otherwise I would have lost patience as in other conflicts of religious “encounters” and administer my usual “stuck on stupid” phrases and move on to better avenues of energy transformations.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 21:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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Hi, Hawaiian.

I understand you. No problem. I am glad that I will be clearly understood and learning more. :)

Yes, right. Lyrans, Vegans and other humans from the worlds came to Earth.

Salome.

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 19:14, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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Hi. I wonder what is Jmmanuel's surname?

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 00:03, 19 August 2012 (BST)
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Talk:Where do we come from?

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== JVP said ... ==

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I knew I came from Far but that Far I did not.
Love and Peace.
JVP

--JVP 09:47, 27 August 2010 (BST)
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== Metrognome said ... ==

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Hello and greetings to all, I have just recently discovered the teachings and wisdom contained within this website and I wanted to share my reaction in hopes of receiving feedback from anyone out there.

My thoughts on the origin of mankind proposed by this ET theory:
I hold equality and understanding between all races of humankind to be one of the most overlooked and valuable assets one can attain in life. Studying the accounts of Mr. Meier's interactions with the extra terrestrials I couldn't help but notice the extent of concentration on the anglo saxon (white) race alone. Even if the origins of the many races of earth humans are indeed from separate planets and solar systems it just goes to separate us even further from each other in the eyes of possible ignorant extremists. This is what I worry about if we are to propose these theories on a mass scale.
While I realize that the words Mr. Meier relays to us are the truths which he has learned I can not help but wonder on the subject of mankind's origin.
Human's draw on their past to form a mental identity for themselves in their current times, and if the only beings to which one can look to for inspiration are of only one race I don't expect that their teachings will reach the hearts of ALL mankind. Perhaps we were simply not fortunate enough to be visited by spokespeople from every race's planet of ET origin.
It makes me grateful to be born on a planet as diverse as ours.
What are your thoughts on the theory of mankind's origin's from the African continent where the fossil records trace the oldest human like being?
Any feedback would be appreciated, PEACE

--[[User:Metrognome|Metrognome]] 09:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Alive said ... ==

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Hi Metrognome,

Maybe the hominid fossil found in Africa ("Lucy") was somekind of ancient sasquatch which is the ancestor of today's sasquatch, not today's human (homo sapiens sapiens). But since I am not an archeologist, do not take my words seriously. I just want to give you a feedback, since you said that any feedback would be appreciated.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 12:31, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Hawaiian said ... ==

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Metrognome,

Research Contact Report 007 and Billy's summary, I've included a short topic that includes both reports that also addresses Alive's comments as well as Markvd idea that both are of the same race.

Gilgamesh
From Billy Meier
Gilgamesh belongs to a race of "shape changers" (Gestaltwandler, Morphogenese) and he is able to change the form and size of his body within several months. He adjusted his body - internally and externally - to his Earth "surroundings".
Gilgamesh, whose original lifespan was 120,000 years (but is now reduced to about 50,000 years), will live here for the rest of his life. He cannot go back to his people even if he had a beamship to fly to his native planet as it no longer exists since it was destroyed in a catastrophe. All of it's inhabitants have died. It had previously existed 20 million light years away from Earth in a spiral galaxy known as M94, NGC 4736.
Gilgamesh has previously turned down an offer from the Plejaren of transportation away from Earth.
He is probably currently working as a scientist on Earth where he has access to "heavy water" which he needs for sustainment of his material form.
References
Semjase: CONTACT REPORT 007
137. These descendants of the outcasts were abused by foreign space travelers, and these also mated, through genetic manipulation, with different animal species and witnessed genetically new life forms.
145. Humans have given them special names:
146. Yeti, etc.
161. Today, to our knowledge, only seven such beings of the old human life forms live on the Earth, where they remain so well hidden that they will never be found with certainty and will one day die a peaceful death, and indeed, without descendants, for they have become too old and passive for propagation.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 23:38, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
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== NEO KORBEN said ... ==

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DOES ANY BODY HOW MANY KINDS OF SPECIES IN OUR GALAXY,AND HOW MANY SPECIES ARE IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE?, AND HOW MANY DIMENSIONS THERE IN EXISTENCE RIGHT KNOW,.... I APPRECIATE ANY KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON COULD POSSIBLY ANSWER ME,AND THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

--[[User:NEO KORBEN|NEO KORBEN]] 04:46, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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== Wolverine said ... ==

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The first Lyrians (or Lyrans) together with the Vegans came to the Earth since 22 million years ago. A language spoken on Earth 289,000 years ago and again 13,500 years ago by the ancient Lyra-Vega descendants when the extraterrestrials this planet. Our modern Germanic languages stems from the Ancient Lyrian language. Our ancestors were from Lyrans, Vegas, Sirius and Plejarens. Our eartling people were mixed from both humans and extraterrestrials.

The Chinese/Japanese were from the planet Kudra, who emigrated to planet Njsan of the Lyra star system since 2,500,000 years ago and then 26,000 years ago, they migrated to Earth.

Is it right? Let me know.

--[[User:Wolverine|Wolverine]] 20:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
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Dear James,
I have tried to upload the correctable document of the petition which I translated in Farsi. Behzad, has offered to proofread it if necessary, however, all in all, it is relatively well prepared and usable in my opinion. I just need to upload it. the message says the file is either corrupt or has an unrecognizable extension. Any suggestion?

Salome,

Zhila

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[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC) Do you find this website useful or a waste of Internet space perhaps? Why not expend 3 minutes of your time to let everyone know your mind right here?!

[[User:Ritak|Ritak]] 20:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)Greetings James. I have just arrived and find your site very useful indeed! Well done. Thank you for helping to make this urgent and important message even more available to others. I wonder if the queen has perused your site ;-) With best regards to your and your family.

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:30, 10 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks Ritak, I appreciate the support. I couldnt tell if the Queens been here. Would be interesting if Google Analytics could show that info don't you agree? Something like "Buckingham Palace: 58 PageViews"...

Hello gentlemen

Yes I agree with ritak
This is a very infomative and quite comprehensive website for information regarding Billy
Thanks James for your efforts, one that will be appreciated by many but something that you probably already know.
Take care
Matt

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 16:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks Matt/Newinitiation, your comments are very welcome and appreciated.

[[User:Aletha|Aletha]] 08:01, 22 June 2008 (UTC) Hello everyone! I only stumbled upon meier's work since April 2008, but I have been immersed in his work ever since! This site is extremely informative and is helpful in answering issues I don't fully understand or even comprehend. keep up the great work James!

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 11:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC) Hi Aletha, thanks for posting! How did you stumble upon Billy Meier's work and why were you looking in the first place? For myself, I was initially interested in the truth about our existence, UFOs and ET life when I came across Mr Meier in 2006. I've always been one of those people who question the status quo.

[[User:Edwardb|Edwardb]] 21:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)Hello! My name is Edward, and I stumbled upon Meier's work in the early part of summer 2007, much by "accident" actually! Glad to have found this particular page as well, a comprehensive collection of Meier essentials in one location! Extremely useful indeed. Neat and organized, as well as clean. I like that you present the information as it is given.

How I stumbled upon Meiers'work is a funny story actually. I live in Vegas, and was playing a game called 3 card poker. 2nd best hand is 3 of a kind, naturally. Well, I got 3 sixes, which threw me back and made me think for a bit, about why I got THAT set of number over any other, and I went home and googled the true meaning of 666. The first page that popped up was Gaiaguy's 666 page that referenced the TJ. Read and pondered that for a week, then bought the TJ. The rest is history, as they say, lol!

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC) Edward thats interesting, so it's thanks to gaiaguys you came across Billy, or was it thanks to google? Anyway I'm glad you're here! If anyone has any ideas (simple or fancy) for the website please mention it here or email me if you want to. I'm made this website for everyone and hope to constantly improve it.

[[User:Muad Dib 1974|lucho]] Hello there!!!! I just wanted to share something small... I had an Out Of Body experience a couple of years ago... it changed me, I know now that we all are one mind and to know about our true origin is priceless... I try to meditate every night, but sometimes I feel that I am getting no where. however the info in this site has giving me a better understanding on reality and I am trying very hard to be part of the solution. thank you.
I do have two questions, Why are all the pictures so old, can't he take newer ones with a digital camera? and Why we can't see the faces of the females holding the laser guns?
thank you for doing this and my mind is with you.

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 22:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC) Hello lucho. Its nice to hear about your out of body experience. I personally have never -consciously/knowingly had one but what you say about us being of one mind is interesting. I presume you mean that we are connected via a higher spiritual conduit which makes sense to me.

Regarding your questions I cannot answer for Billy of course but in my opinion the photos we have are sufficient. There were apparently over 800 photos taken, many of which were lost. Also since they were taken before the ''age of the personal computer'' (and Adobe Photoshop) mostly in the 1970s they are more convincing in my opinion than say a new high resolution digital image which can now be hoaxed/forged. The ''no faces allowed'' thing is related to the possibility of the Plejaren being exposed to psychic attacks I believe although you would probably find more information from the [http://www.figu.org/ FIGU Forum].

Peace, truth and wisdom to you.

[[User:Edwardb|Edwardb]] 19:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)Jamesm, what you say makes a lot of sense in regards to why they dont take newer photos with digital cameras. Also though, all of that evidence photographic/video, were apart of the 'official contacts,' in which they were slowly making themselves known to earth people. The official contacts ended, but the Plejaren still keep in contact with Billy on a personal level, as we all know. I'm not sure exactly which report or article I read that in, but if you like I can search it out and reference it here.

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Edward are you suggesting that Billy has/probably has personal photos of the Plejaren that he does not allow the public to see? I think that would not be probable since we know that these photos would be at risk of theft.

[[User:Edwardb|Edwardb]] 02:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)What I actually meant is that they keep in contact via telepathy, intermittently, or actual visits. But no he is not collecting anymore physical evidence of the Plejaren's vehicles. I did not mean to imply that he has personal photos of them that he does not share with the public. My apologies for the misunderstanding.(Though I did read that he had some photos that were not meant for the public that were stolen from him in the past)

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[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 23:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC) Hi Barbarian216 and thanks for posting your messages here. You are as welcome as anyone who wishes to talk about Billy and related subjects. I hope you dont mind but I've moved your text that was in [[Help_talk:Contents]] to here since its a more relavent place to put it.

You ask some interesting questions and of course they are mostly just for consideration since I certainly could not answer them myself with solid answers. I often wonder when these 3 extrasolar races who are visiting us are going to make themselves known to the majority of Earth if they ever will. If they knew how blood thirsty and unbalanced a large proportion of us are then they won't land for quite a long time indeed. Unless they are of like mind of course! The recent events in Georgia, Iraq, Sudan and Afghanistan are evidence of our insanity. It would be an appropriate shock and wake up call for us though if they perhaps did land all over the world and say something along the lines of : "Greetings, we come in peace, we are the X, we come from Y and we just wanted to tell you that you are heading for self-annihilation by your false religious-fueled wars and selfish consumption of your planets resources through overpopulation. Good bye."

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC) Barbarian216, why do you ask me questions which would presume that I would have the knowledge or wisdom to answer successfully? I am but a 33 year old father of 2 and husband to 1 wife in the land of Scotland situated in the north-western half of the United Kingdom, Western Europe with an honourary degree in a Computer-related subject. I have not studied all of Billy's texts, probably more like 2% of them. I have a poor understanding of a few of Earth's religions and only use my intuition and inner voice to try and make sense of everything that I encounter. Please, I would advise that you seek wiser men and women at the FIGU forum!

But hey! I still have an opinion and if you still want it then it is this: [[Contact Report 251]] was not recently updated except for the [[Special:Categories|categories]] I have put it within yesterday.

If we all prayed for Billy's health then it might help prolong his life but I'm not sure. He may not want this though. I think since the Peace Meditation translates as '''Peace be on Earth, and among all beings!''' then this means you cannot really wish for something specific to happen.

Negative actions can produce positive results. Consider the negative action of killing a murderer on the run from the police. The positive result is that there were potential lives saved however that murderers human spirit has now lost a chance to reflect upon its negative actions of murder and resolve those actions (evolve).

I can also write about an event that occurred in my early life that changed another's behaviour. When I was 16 years old I was attacked by a boy of the same age from my same school on a school bus. I guess he wanted to prove his ''worth'' to his gang. I fought back and we ended up both being injured. I had a cut lip and he had cut fingers. Months later he asked me while surrounded by his gang to fight him again right there on a public street. This time I kept declining to fight him stating such to him and suffered some blows from his fists. I gained some bruises to the head. Several months after he apologised to me for starting the fights and asked for my forgiveness. This was a surprise but I forgave him and we both gained something from those events. That something was probably the understanding that '''violence for the glory of battle is a primitive desire that originates from ones own ego'''.

Barbarian216 my advice to you, even though I am not the ideal person to give it, is to stop worrying about everything and just be a good person but enjoy the ride. There maybe chaos ahead but at least there will be peace and we will return to follow the Laws of Creation one day in the not so far future (only 800 years to go!). Just think about all those millions of incarnations you've got left before you ascend to the Arahat Athersata level! ^^

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 17:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC) Barb can you please first type in 4 ~ characters when you write your reply (see top of this page) as when you click Save Page it then converts your ~ characters into you name and a date stamp. I have to keep typing that in for you to keep the flow of the chat here readable. I wonder if there is some other plugin I can use for this Wiki...

Since this planet we are on is the only known planet to the Plejaren that has this extent of a religious problem then I think that we are indeed living in a very special time on a very special planet and the spiritual rewards that we shall reap for breaking these great religious chains will mark a special event in the history of this incarnation of Creation...perhaps. That is of course if we succeed or its back to square one again and we'll have to go through the dark ages again, oh bother!

[[User:Markv|Markv]] 10:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC) (edit) Oh nevermind, I just figured it out: The natural terrestrial race inter-bred with the early immigrants. It's so easy to over-look little things when presented with so much information.

[[User:Johnnybalmain|Johnnybalmain]] 00:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)Hi there James, great site well done.
I was hoping you could direct me to a place where I could read as much of OM in english as has been translated. It is very frustrating and a great test of patience waiting for books to be translated.
yours sincerely john

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Hi John I don't think that the Om is in English just yet. Dyson and Vivienne (previously of gaiaguys.net) have translated some of it though, in an official but authorised form. You can find the articles at http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meier.gaiaguys.index.htm (search for "Book of books". Kind Regards James.

[[User:Barbarian216|Barbarian216]] 08:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Hi Jamesm, I decided to clear out my comments and let others express their views regarding your excellent website. Didn't get much feedback, so I understand why BEAM says he feels so lonely at times comtemplating his awareness to the world's past and current situations.

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 20:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC) Hey Barb there was not a need to do that my friend. I thought I answered most of your questions. I also thought that you were asking some questions that were over my head so I could not really answer them o make useful comments. Please visit the FIGU USA forum and participate there my friend. I'm sure you will be pleased with the quantity of responses.

[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 07:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)Thanks my friend, you can re post it if you want, this is your website. It contains options taken from earthly as well as intergalatic connections that binds us, including the Pleijarens. It could be of useful benefit to them in their quest for spiritual harmony between the positive and negative forces of existence. Periodically I check in the US FIGU site, but find the forum rather mundane and rarely stimulating. This site contains updated versions which I look forward in reading and expanding my awareness of forces that shape this and other universes including the participants. Keep up the good work.....Aloha

[[User:Edwardb|Edwardb]] 07:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)James, I am curious about something. Why have you decided to include Maurice Osborn's Essence of the Notes, with all of the controversy surrounding it? I noticed you added it, and have been perusing it for the past few days. Now, I am glad that I have been studying this for awhile from official sources, because I recognized most of the errors cited by Gaiaguys. At first I just ignored them, but as they started getting more numerous it began to bother me. It wasn't until I was nearly through with the book that I noticed your warning page for this book. So, why post it?

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC) Glad to see you're still here Hawaiian. Are you really in Hawaii? I'd love to visit that place. I like beaches and hot weather. So tell us where do you live, please! :) Hey Edward good point! I was careless to include it. It only degrades the quality of this wiki in addition to being a catalyst for corruption of the truth which has (once again) been presented to Earth man. I shall remove it.

[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)Yes, I'm in Hawaii as a matter of fact I have ancestor roots from England, Spain, China and Hawaii. Hawaii, like this Earth is not all that seems apparent, there are various negative conflictions if one really knows its historical makeup. Earth humans are representatives from various negative/positive fashions throughout this universe that are still in limbo. Yet we have these experiences that other more advanced civilizations don't have and make us unique and probably the "key" in resolving past and current issues between the negative/positive human races. Being of mixed races, one has a more minute prospective of events, so to speak.

I just wanted to say hello and make a small suggestion, although you are quite involved in making this a success. Is it possible to create a analysis section on BEAM meetings (contact notes) with ET's for others to comment on? It will give others a chance to express their feelings and a way for the ET's to gauge earth humans development in spiritual and other categories?

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC) Hawaiian, What do you think about using the Discussion tab for talking and commenting about each Page? They are all editable. I guess all I need to do is suggest people use them.

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC) There is something wrong with this website. I frequently get Internal Server Error when trying to save a page. I will try fix this.

[[User:Ianmck|Ianmck]] 02:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Hello James,I've been around this site for about a week now and find it extemely helpful and very easy to locate the things I'm looking for. I'm a real newbie in the Things of Billy Meier
I thank you for providing this place to further my study. As you are from the west coast you might consider me to be an ET when I tell you I'm an Aberdonian now living in Ontario Canada
All the very best wishes to you and your family and Thank you once again.........Salome

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Hi Ian, Nice hearing from you. How did you come across Billy Meier? Actually I'm originally from Plymouth, Devon, England. I love the scenery up here in the west of Scotland though. The mountains and lakes are awesome to behold.

[[User:Ianmck|Ianmck]] 17:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC) Hello again James. Iwas looking at something on utube and one of his interviews came up and it looked interesting so I think I ended up watching everything they had about Billy on there.
I feel very comfortable studying the material on this site. I do go to the FIGU site but a lot of what they talk about goes right over my head. I'll just have to try and catch up I guess. I spent almost a year in Plymouth in Drake barracks when my ship was in dry dock there. That was in the early sixties. Nice to chat for a bit,have to go and learn now.
[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 08:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)Hi Ianmck, I would suggest reading Contact # 251 that summaries the inter-connections between the creator overlords who created, manipulated and exploited earth humans including the other "players" in this whole episode of disfunctional behaviours and the reason why BEAM, the Plejaren and other races are involved. Then you could go to more challenging items like FIGU Special Bulletin 38 that "presents" you with tools to vastly enhance your 6th and 7th senses via the pineal gland to "understand" the roles humans or other beings are involved between the fine and course matter of Creation.

[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 08:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)Aloha Jamesm, hope you and your family are enjoying this Thanksgiving holiday? Please extend our Thanks and Aloha to the Plejarens, BEAM and all others pursuing the noble quest of bringing balance to a rather chaotic situation here on Earth! Speaking about FIGU Special Bulletin 38, I was thinking of incorporating a brief analysis I added to the discussion tab, but did not want to make the previous comments become too lengthly, so left it there.

[[User:Creational|Creational]] Dear James,

I am not sure if I am using this correctly. I just wanted to let you know that I have finished translating the Farsi version of the petition but I need to have my dad or sister to proofread it.
There is a new article about overpopulation by FIGU. Are you guys planning to alter the old one?
Also, how do you want me to send you the finalized translated version? May be scan it and upload it here?
Please let me know.
Thanks,
Zhila

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 12:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC) Hi Creational. Welcome to the future of mankind. You can write here or in your own talk page if you like, or even my talk page. Either are fine. When you edit this page its a good idea to sign your comment. You can do this automatically by typing 4 tildes symbols with no space in between at the beginning of your comment. When you save the page the 4 tilde symbols get converted into your username and the date and time. See top of this page for more info.

I am not planning to change the petition any further. I may add http://us.figu.org/portal/SocialIssues/PopulationGrowthWithoutLimit/tabid/148/Default.aspx to this wiki and then put a link to it at the bottom of the petition. That is all.

Kind Regards

James

[[User:Creational|Creational]] 07:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)Dear Jamesm. Thanks for your responce. Can I upload from my scanner to this page?

Salome,

Zhila

[[User:Creational|Creational]] 02:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)Dear James,

Don't worry, I just noticed the upload file option at the bottom left. Thank you.

Salome,

Zhila
```` hello thanks for this page.

[[User:Gabriel|Gabriel]] 19:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)Hello everyone,

it seems to me that my last six months of interest in UFO's, human origin theory, spirituality and social issues has led me right to the Billy Meier material. I think critically, that is to say I put as much stock in what the mainstream claims to be true as I would any other, in the event that I cannot experience the truth of it for myself. Nevertheless, I think humans have the ability to discern a certain level of truth when they hear it, and think it over, and I'm glad to see such a community exists here. I thank the creators and moderators of this site, as it is very well done.

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 01:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Hi Gabriel and welcome to the site. I'm glad you found it well constructed. It's interesting hearing an overview on how you arrived here. 6 months ago did you encounter some kind of event in your life that changed your way of thinking do you think? So how much of the material here have you read so far? I must admit myself that its a lot to read and remember! (hopes for a photographic memory in next incarnation).

[[User:Gabriel|Gabriel]] 04:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC) James,

in answer to your question, yes there was an event that led me to start searching. One could call it a breakdown, but it wasn't emotionally taxing or stressful, I simply understood that the way I was living was completely dissatisfying, and so I quit my job, moved into a cottage on my Moms property, and began to look at things. I was mostly interested in UFOs, partly because I've always had dreams about objects in the sky, and partly because if one thinks, ''critically'', about the vastness of material space, one can discern some truth in the idea that it is not devoid of other life. Then it just snowballed into human origins theory, spirituality, consciousness. And ultimately it was the UFO aspect that led me to FIGU and to Billy Meier. It was a pleasant surprise to find out that the case deals with all of the aspects that I had been looking into, and in a manner that resonated with me. The more I think about the things I read, the more I come to understand that the whole of it resonates as true to me. Also interesting is that someone just came into my life who is very spiritual, and happens to speak High German, right at the time when I was getting into the case. In regards to the second question, I've read relatively little of the contact reports, though I am trying to hunt down some books here in Manitoba. I did read the Talmud Jmmanuel, and a few of the contact reports. And I too hope for a photographic memory next time around.

-Gabe [I also just found the facebook group.]

[[User:Phenix|Phenix]] 07:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC) Greetings in peace and wisdom James, the audience,

I hope you are all enjoying the vibes of neutral-positivity.

Thanks for the forum, Gentleman; i shall certainly zip by every now and then.

Salome,

Phenix/Adam.

PS:
James, the last two entries by the birth control petition came out twice.
Would you take a look at it?

[[User:Forest boy|Forest boy]] 20:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC) Hello all, I am fascinated by Billy's work and I think it is well worth learning the German language to study it more in depth. Thanks jamesm for this website. It is beautifully done and has helped me alot in my search for truth.

Salome,

[[User:Phenix|Phenix]] 11:24, 8 February 2009 (UTC) Hello James and all,

Welcome and good luck with your endeavor, Forest boy.

If needed, James and many others would certainly provide you gladly with some neutral-positive 'tips' along the path:-)

Are you familar with FIGU discussion forums and study groups?

Salome,

Adam.

[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 21:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC) I'd like to learn German but dont have the time at the moment. One day I shall though. Probably after the kids have grown up by about another 6 years.

[[User:Phenix|Phenix]] 11:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Hello there!

James, Forest boy, i can tell you from personal experience, that learning German in these circumstances is not that difficult, for - once you have mastered the basic grammar of the language - the own strength and beauty of these writings and books keep you going. The style of Herr Meier is also supportive: 'smooth' and to the point.

Five months ago i could indeed barely read a sentence in German; now i am able to read the Book OM and even 'Kelch der Wahrheit' - maybe also thanks to the fact that Dutch language is fairly close to German.

So, Gentlemen, when ready, just start and do it!

By the way, James, what about having a Bibiography of Billy Meier in the Wiki?
Here is a compilation i made out of data and information from 'And yet... they fly!' of Herr Guido Moosbrugger and the Book OM:

- Desiderata: Vital items;

- Talmud Jmmanuel ( 1974), Original Translations of a two thousand-year-old Script found in Jerusalem in 1963, which describes the Life and Work of Jmmanuel(alias Jesus Christ). Recorded at that Time by Order of Jmmanuel by one of his Disciples;

- The Psyche (1975), or Help for the Life of Man on Earth;

- Arahat Athersata (1975), Message to Earth Humanity from a High Spiritual Form; explaining Facts of human Behavior in Religions, Politics, Sciences...;

- Dekalogue (1975), the 'Ten Commandments' in their original Form, including other Commandments held back from Humanity until now;

- Genesis (1976), the Teachings of the Origin of Creation as well as the Development of the Universe, heavenly Bodies, Flora, Fauna and Human Life Form according to the Laws of Creation with evolutionary Guidelines for Humans resulting herefrom;

- Prophecies (1976-1981), prophetic Explanations and Predictions of coming Events on Earth;

- The Law of Love (1978), about Love as the Foundation of all Existence, the Lawfullness of Love, its Definition and its Meaning in human Life;

- Directives (1982), Guidelines and behavioral Regulations for the Processing, Attainment and Conservation of psychic, physical and conscious Purity and Health.They are drawn up within the Framework of the Laws and Commandments to follow on hygienic care of Body, Psyche, Spirit and Consciousness which are anchored in the Spiritual Teachings;

- Existing Life in the Universe (1984), Billy Meier's Contacts with the Plejarans; extraterrestrial Life; the SOL System, Comets and Meteors; universal Life...;

- Introduction into Meditation (1979), Meditation and its Use and Effectiveness in Human Life;

- The Book OM, Omfalon Murado(1983-1984), the most important Creational Laws and Directives, Rules of Order and Guidelines; Aim and Tasks of Humans in their material and spiritual Life, laid out and explained by Jschwjsch Ptaah and his Prophet, Billy Meier;

- Books of Names (1982), a Total of 6.360 interplanetary Names in their original Forms and Meanings; received and recorded by Mister Meier;

- Contact Reports (1975-1984), Billy Meier's Contact Reports, Spiritual Teachings, Explanations and Experiences with extraterrestrial, Plejaran Life Forms;

- Goblet of Truth ( 2008): The Book.

Salome,

Adam.

[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 06:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)Aloha, just my 2 cents, I think if the Contact and Special Bulletins have a short summary topic instead of just numbers, it would be much easier for others not too familiar to find the "answers" to their particular interests? I am familiar to some, but even have problems looking for a certain contact or bulletin to reference just by numbers. The chronological time lines of events is very helpful indeed, thanks.

Wolverine: Hi, all users. Where I can get Contact Notes 251? Let me know.