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This is very similar to when one meditates without desire or "nothingness", as what Zen monks would describe "Enlightenment", "the sound of the clap of one hand"...pure energy at the 7th level sense where Creation "begins" without a beginning or end, any thought or concept cannot "contain" such energy as it is absolute and pure being, the source of all life, past, current and future that encompasses all fine or coarse matter/energy and continues to evolve forever.
--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 05:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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Here is a tid bit of some of my thoughts... J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...
This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight.
1. I am Ramtha:
Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint, or whatever.
2. Death or ascension:
3. Nothing but truth
4.Lawlessness of life
5.producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone
Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha :
The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are...
You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just isness, the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years.
The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given by ramtha. If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand.
Ramtha says that he is from the Plejares. A star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus.
 It is difficult to excactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a  non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order)  it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the concistancy with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantam level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws. 
 
--[[User:Derrick|Derrick]] 16:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hawaiian said ...

This is very similar to when one meditates without desire or "nothingness", as what Zen monks would describe "Enlightenment", "the sound of the clap of one hand"...pure energy at the 7th level sense where Creation "begins" without a beginning or end, any thought or concept cannot "contain" such energy as it is absolute and pure being, the source of all life, past, current and future that encompasses all fine or coarse matter/energy and continues to evolve forever.

--Hawaiian 05:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

erjk said ...

i fathom it similar to the dream state..one who is aware of there dreaming or becomes aware that they are dreaming there is something to be said about the dream world and its congruency to the Creation and even the Void and All Great Time..

--erjk 01:21, 23 June 2010 (BST)

Derrick said ...

Dear Mr. Meier, Thank you for the teachings of truth,the teachings of spirit, the teachings of life. 1.When we die, do we imediately exist in the WE-form? 2. As humans, we are the determining factor in this life but after death can we still direct ourselves consciously in any way and determine anything in that state of being? 3. or is this state completely unconscious? My very best regards to you Billy:) Derrick salome


--Derrick 19:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian said ...

erjk,

The dream state is known as the "ether" where the Conscious is still attached to a physical material body, determined by the condition of ones psyche which interfaces with the subconscious that enables the level of "awareness" in both the dream or remote viewing realms. It is a learning exercise between these attributes for your Conscious.

--Hawaiian 20:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Derrick said ...

Here is a tid bit of some of my thoughts... J.Z.Knight...Channeler of "RAMTHA"? True or false? You decide...

This is a compilation of contradictions that I have compiled from the literature and or audio and video of "Ramtha" supposedly channeled by J.Z. Knight. 1. I am Ramtha: Ramtha claims that he was a human being that lived 3.500 years ago in Lummoria. Though there are no writings or evidence to support this claim of his existence by ANYONE in earth history, nor any physical evidence to support that a person by that title, "Ramtha the enlightened one" ever existed. .Let alone, led a great march and ascended his body in front of masses of people. If this were the case, wouldn't you think that someone would have documented this so called event somewhere in history? Or that they would share this amazing story and it would spread throughout the world? (such is the case with many religions of the world.) Not even a fragment of evidence can be produced to substantiate the existence of Ramtha as a person,ascended master, saint, or whatever. 2. Death or ascension: 3. Nothing but truth 4.Lawlessness of life 5.producing solid gold in your hand from your thoughts alone Here are a list of some of the principals taught by Ramtha : The foundation of the teachings of ramtha are what Ramtha calls "The four cornerstones of the school which are: 1. Consciousness and energy create the nature of reality 2. Conquer yourself 3.Make known the unknown 4. behold God. Other teachings are... You are God , Manifesting from thought into matter, Nothing but truth, Death or ascension ,there is no bad or good just isness, the lawlessness of life, and many more. These are just a few of the many subjects taught by ramtha that would be floating around in my consciousness for many years. The ramtha school considers itself a progressive school and requires all students to be current to continue to receive the newest cutting edge spiritual knowledge given by ramtha. If this requirement is not met the student must attend a beginner retreat to become current again and again and again in many cases that I have seen first hand. Ramtha says that he is from the Plejares. A star cluster located within the constellation of Taurus.  It is difficult to excactly describe the full body of what is taught in the ramtha school because of the way that the information is presented in a non-chronological order. ( (without a chronological order) it is more difficult to pin point the ramtha information and research it to the finest degree and find the concistancy with "the truth" according to "this reality" that we are physically bound to here on Earth and have only just begun to understand in a quantam level. However Ramtha claims that natural laws such as the "lawlessness of life, (A chapter in ramtha's white book) and other teachings containing key information don't apply to natural laws.

 


--Derrick 16:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)