Talk:The Twelve Commandments

Hawaiian 23:46, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Sounds so familiar from the perverted version of the bible's 10 commandments. Based on a "sterile environment" without interferences these commandments are valid if pursued accordingly. However, like you say it is vague and open to subjectively and basically "tuned" to address the disharmony brought about through religions. I believe the idea of prophets was to "balance" the earth humans using the same "agenda concept" of religious doctrine that caused its demise.

There appears to be some discrepancy on several commandments that focuses on Earth humans not other ET's, number 4 "do not commit adultery" sounds reasonable. But is it the same as when Pleijarans have more than 1 wife?

Also in this same passage, "you shall not break your bond with Creation" is rather subjective applying again to Earth humans, but not the creator overlords who violated they natural evolutionary process and created the manipulated (earth) humans to counterbalance their mistakes. Then went on a revenge to exterminate them completely, so are there separate laws of creation for them also, or is it because they have the power to do so and it does not apply?

Number 6 commandment regarding killing in depravity has to be expanded much more in detail, it may be applied in certain circumstances depending again on the level of evolution. Physical humans need to consume living tissues, until they develop the technology to replace these needed nutrients. Then of course "murder" of fellow humans and "short circuiting" their spiritual and physical attributes, thus depriving another of their "natural evolution" process has not been addressed. Nokodemion restricted further reincarnations when he restored harmony in distant pass and is this part of the creational law?

Judging from these 12 commandments coming from the Petele spiritual level, I have to question whether this spiritual being has really the necessary experiences to address these issues? Or does creation have to wait another 160 billion years before truely addressing this by way of reincarnation of the present Earth humans who have experienced all of the above and more interferences? However bear in mind that earth humans have the capacity to destroy themselves along with the pending world wars 3 and 4, so this creation will lose that opportunity of addressing these issues if total destruction is in the works.

There must be a more efficient and productive way of balancing the positive and negative forces in this fine/course material universe with humans in the center?

Or do we have to again depend on Nokodemion to intervene? Maybe Billy should ask this question to another Petele being for a second opinion? But I truly believe the answer lies in Earth humans, with their vast experiences of interferences, reincarnated spirits of various races both benevolent and malevolent, but it cannot succeed without assistance from those other ET's that have both the technology and evolutionary attributes to do so. Depending too much on Earth humans to resolve these issues by themselves is not fair.

Jamesm 01:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC) Hello I felt the urge to respond, finally...

But is it the same as when Pleijarans have more than 1 wife? - Adultery is obviously not the same as both partners formally agreeing to engage in polygamy prior to marriage or prior to moving from a monogamistic to a polygamistic relationship, although I would imagine agreeing prior to marriage would be less emotionally disturbing to the insecure than after marriage.

You shall not break your bond with Creation - Your example of how the Creator Overlords disrespected Creation in their genetic creation of us is a good one. They broke this commandment, pure and simple, like we are doing by breaking the Earth with our overpopulation and exploitation etc. I could be missing a point to this commandment.

Killing in depravity and killing animals: I think that killing animals for food in a non-painful way is the only way to ensure it is not deprave unless the survival of a human life is at risk. Animals kill each other in painful ways because they don't have anesthetic drugs of course. Pain is a negative emotion and causes suffering and of course we wouldn't cause unnecessary suffering to humans (unless you're psychotic of course!).

I agree that these commandments are quite easily subject to, and in need of, expansion yes. But isn't that what the rest of the spiritual teachings and the spirit lessons go into? I would not know, not being fluent in German yet.

You said: Judging from these 12 commandments coming from the Petele spiritual level, I have to question whether this spiritual being has really the necessary experiences to address these issues?. Surely that being must have evolved through the material belt already and so it does?

You said: There must be a more efficient and productive way of balancing the positive and negative forces in this fine/course material universe with humans in the center?. Thats a million dollar question! Depends on perspective I guess.

I'll answer your other questions with 2 questions of my own!

Why is suffering necessary to evolve?

Why is a material belt necessary to evolve the Universe at all?