Talk:What is really going to happen in the year 2012?
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robert said ...
john said ...
It is unfortunate that many well meaning people do not realize how there negativity are affecting the world as they are adding to the problem not solving it by allowing fear to run there lives and they try to prove there feelings by trying to convince there friends of this as truth. We have alot to learn!!
--john 15:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
zameen said ...
i find it more possible of the mock space invasion than anything else.
--zameen 20:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Psonnenh said ...
I understand pleiadians can't disclosure the future, in order to no afect our living experience in earth,. But why only expose global warming (details), making us feel bad (and we should), but if the "may" events, (Solar waves, polar shifting, and black colousal efects) is not in our hands to avoid their destruction power. I mean , anyway big life loses will happen with or without global warming.
--Psonnenh 09:14, 1 May 2010 (BST)
North Shore Hawaii said ...
Ok, if the pleiadians are definitely in contact with our government and with high-ranking officials, why not discuss between themselves all of this important information? Why not get the people involved that can actually create a change immediately, rather than a bunch of people on here? If ETs are seriously communicating with our government, I am positive they are relaying this information to our gov. And if they are, our gov. is planning as we speak on how to break it to us, and how to plan for this event. If this is all true (it sounds true), then we (who are reading on here) are more aware than most others. Spread the word, and try to evoke some environmental change in your area. We can't save the world in 2 years, but I can feel better about a catastrophe if I wasn't blatantly wasting energy, resources, and product all along the way. Good luck to you all. I sure hope the pleiadians that are thousands of years more advanced than we are, are intelligent enough to help us avoid the destruction of our planet (or OUR planet, since they seem to be sharing it with us). It would be quite silly for them to say, "This is going to happen in 2 years... its going to be pretty ugly... don't tell the simple Earthlings any more!" And them just die along with us when the world goes to hell in 2012 because of solar flares and the ozone getting messed up. I mean seriously... What is the point in contacting humans and collaborating with our government, if you aren't going to HELP... you're just going to forecast... I sure hope it works out. I wouldn't mind living alongside a new race, an intelligent and nurturing race that delights in our learning and evolving. That would make me feel like I was actually born for something!
--North Shore Hawaii 12:49, 6 May 2010 (BST)
Zameen said ...
north shore Hawaii: the entire paragraph you wrote contains misdirected and has nothing to do with the reality that we are faced with. the plejaran are not here(they left this planet in 95' after their mission was completed. they do however still see billy as per the contacts etc. but in regards to the apocalyptic and sad events that you are hinting towards, you should try to look more closely to the info provided here. it is sure to help you reach a less negative understanding and perhaps some insights to what we must do as humans. as far as living side by side with another race, not going to happen. our vibrations are so different that it equates to them living in sickness if they were to reside here with us. why would they do that when they have a home world that has enjoyed 50,000+ yrs. of spiritual and technological symmetry?
--Zameen 15:38, 6 May 2010 (BST)
Mark said ...
I hope we still get to see one more xmas in 2012. Although according from what I've read Emmanuel's B-day is in February. My conclusion 2 Xmas's per year. :)Thanks Pleiadians.
--Mark 00:14, 7 May 2010 (BST)
Hawaiian said ...
As Mark quoted, "enjoy your next two Xmas" before 2010, but most importantly as Zameen mentioned, learn as much as you can from this site and others. Because the intensity of the expected solar flaring may be so great, that internet and other forms of communications maybe disrupted so much, one may not be able to log into their computers anymore until the crisis passes!
Probably the most reliable source of communications under these conditions will be the tried and proven analog HF/UHF radio.
But, then again, an opportunist could take advantage of these dire circumstances and "propose" a compromise between the degenerative Earth governments and a more advanced civilization that has the technology to protect the Earth. Get rid of religions, nuclear weapons, and other evils, follow Billy's teachings and you'll be covered, deviate from this and we'll remove the technology! Seems like mankind only becomes reasonably logical, is when he faces a terrible dilemma, a rather barbaric method of thinking and learning?
But this will never happen, since "free will" is not the primary concern at the moment or should it be?
--Hawaiian 01:50, 7 May 2010 (BST)
Mark said ...
That would be nice Hawaiian, but I'm sure Earth has been pampered enough already. I'm sure forces beyond our understanding and capabilities has helped us an uncountable amount of times. I don't know how many bailout plans the universe can hand out unless man of earth can grow and mature. I do see a change in man but still the battle continues within. If we just think with the suggested "Cause and Effect" before making decisions then all would be much better now.
--Mark 20:40, 7 May 2010 (BST)
North Shore Hawaii said ...
Ok, I feel like you all believe what is on this site and elsewhere, and all agree that the world is going to drastically change after 12-21-12. If everyone knows this to be true, what are we doing about it? We are not going to reverse, or even stop, global warming in 2.5 years, so what's the next solution? What can average people like myself do to prepare for this? Are the die-hard believers gathering together and all relocating somewhere and pooling their resources together, and also living the way Billy Meier and the Plejaren have said we should? Starting a society that does as we were all told by the Plejaren is probably the best idea, right? Then as more people realize the err of their ways, they might start opening their minds and even join said society - which is ultimately what needs to happen for mankind to redeem himself... we all need to live the way we are supposed to before we can evolve and even become a working part of the universe(s). I am still working my way through this site - it is huge - but I would like some insight on some of these questions. Thanks everyone!
--North Shore Hawaii 21:37, 17 May 2010 (BST)
Jamesm said ...
North Shore Hawaii - The least you can do is to try and live according to the laws and recommendations of Creation. Those around you will see this in you and will likewise start to turn towards living a life of being truly human. And then it becomes a chain reaction of positive changes which will contribute to the transformation of society into that better society envisaged by the Plejaren and Billy. We will have to endure some severe repercussions from nature in the near future and other problems caused by the massive overpopulation now and later but the long term future holds great things in store for us, which you and I will experience (read contact 251 for example). For 2012 I plan to store as much non-perishable food and other supplies in my rented accommodation as possible. There is not much else we can do. Don't worry about dying, you'll live through it (i.e. you'll reincarnate).
--Jamesm 00:59, 18 May 2010 (BST)
North Shore Hawaii said ...
Ok, so we are supposed to gather food and water, sit in our homes, and wait to reincarnate? Ok, so if we are all going to die in 2012 and reincarnate some 300 years later, what's the point of educating people on how to live, if we're all dying in 2 years anyway??? What's the point in changing our lifestyle and way of thinking, if it's only going to end in 2 years? I guess I'm just not grasping the whole reasoning behind all this... I could understand trying to educate people because we have a chance in saving ourselves, or because we all have centuries to reform our thought processes...But it all just seems pretty... sewed shut. I dunno.
--North Shore Hawaii 09:39, 8 June 2010 (BST)
Neckel said ...
Dear North Shore Hawai,
The world will not end in 2012 and we will not all die in 2012 ! :) Also Billy repeatedly says it. Our planet will end in a few million years when our sun will die. - By the way, one can die anytime, before 2012, 2012, or after 2012 :-/.......
Cosmic influences are present all the time and influence our climat, plate tectonics ect...... right at the moment, only that we have not the time or not the interest in seeing the signs that already happen today in 2010 or that happened already before.
Me for my part i will maybe have only some candles and some food and water for one or three months, nothing more, in the case that the electricity will fail.
Honestly: I am more concerned after 2012 and about the overpopulation. Earth humans (we) will be the ones that will decide if we want to destroy the planet or not....
Salome
--Neckel 11:14, 8 June 2010 (BST)
sanjin said ...
NASA just confirmed the enormous solar storm which is threatening Earth:
--sanjin 22:21, 19 June 2010 (BST)
Mark said ...
Thank you Nasa. I think the governments should simulate possible loss of many electronic devices and devise a plan to keep the most necessary and vital to day to day needs that people will struggle without such as the supermarkets having stocks of food and backup generators or buying foods that last a long time without refrigeration. There will probably be an emergency broadcast which should set people's minds at ease filled with simple tips to maintain daily life functions. I hope people keep there composure and refrain from riots or theft. Double the defenses.
--Mark 02:30, 20 June 2010 (BST)
Mark said ...
I have a great idea. I remember reading about the Plejaren ships capability to capture and deflect energy that it receives THUS I have come up with the invite the entire fleet to block off the sun at the exact date and time of solar storm occurance deflecting right back THUS saving us a whole lot of drama. :) How many ships do the Plejaren have, you think they can cover that big sun and cause an eclipse. j/k
--Mark 02:43, 20 June 2010 (BST)
Quassy said ...
I just want to know why the pleiadians are saying nothing about the death of Tutankamon(king pharaoh of Egypt). What did really cause the death of Tutankamon ??..
--Quassy 19:21, 21 June 2010 (BST)
DRN said ...
2 Direct quotes from billy 1. "Good; what you did explain to me regarding the year 2012, I don’t want to treat as a prophecy or prediction, but as a possibility and a minor probability. I want to begin with a question that was posed to me." 2. "The Earth will fall victim to a very strong bombardment of hard radiation, which may have a very negative effect on the Earth’s ozone layer." My question, Why is in the second does it say "will" and not "may?"
--DRN 19:01, 11 July 2010 (BST)
DRN said ...
2 Direct quotes from billy 1. "Good; what you did explain to me regarding the year 2012, I don’t want to treat as a prophecy or prediction, but as a possibility and a minor probability. I want to begin with a question that was posed to me." 2. "The Earth will fall victim to a very strong bombardment of hard radiation, which may have a very negative effect on the Earth’s ozone layer." My question, Why is in the second does it say "will" and not "may?"
--DRN 19:14, 11 July 2010 (BST)
findinmy way said ...
billy was asking if u can put your book out in english also because i wolud love to read them i can't read german
--findinmy way 09:07, 30 July 2010 (BST)
Janine said ...
The bottom line is...quiet your mind, open your heart, get ready for impending natural disasters. Pray for GRACE.
--Janine 18:27, 8 August 2010 (BST)
Mark said ...
Janine I think praying for something might not get the job done, my mother is doing the same at the church but if disaster comes best to prepare than waste time praying to all the gods and statues and hope they miraculously come to life and save our hides. My mother is a tough nut to crack but I will ease her in slowly into the teachings of Creation.
--Mark 20:51, 8 August 2010 (BST)
Diggy said ...
Excellent, found a mistake on the english side near the end though, on the line "And the that more people are directing themselves onto something certain with their forces of thought, onto something that could or should turn out" I think the second and third words should be switched. Have a good day and thank you for all your efforts in sharing this information.
--Diggy 22:21, 6 September 2010 (BST)
Jamesm said ...
Thanks Diggy
--Jamesm 20:41, 7 September 2010 (BST)
Zameen said ...
Early on I posted a comment about a mock space invasion that I was pretty sure I had read about in a contact report. But I came across some videos on you tube about something called "project bluebeam". Basically it describes how the governments of the world will plan a hologram-based ufo invasion that will bring a new religion to earth by showing holograms in the sky of all the different gods somehow melding into each other and ultimately forming one god. simultaneously, they will have the ability to pump audio into our minds supporting this event and even beaming in holographs of beasts of some kind in our homes. I just cant see how this will change some peoples minds. certain sects are so hard lined about what they believe that I dont see how this could even bother them. they also have youtube videos that are purportedly of some of the holograms in question. one is a giant cross in the daytime(doesnt look that convincing to me)this is all supposed to happen some time around 2012. if i took a swing at a monster in my house and the baseball bat goes right through it, and the monster doesnt hurt me, then it'd just be over right there right? i pose that question like that in reference to the "believability" of all this. seems like more silly conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo, but I just wanted to see if anyone here has heard of, or seen this on youtube. Thanks SALOME!
--Zameen 22:00, 7 September 2010 (BST)
Jamesm said ...
According to contact report 150 an asteroid/meteorite will threaten the Earth possibly in 2014:
9792.5 B.C. – 575.5 orbital period years [of the Destroyer planet]
Special Event: Destroyer rips 7 large asteroids from the Asteroid Belt casting them into various dangerous orbits and which, in coming times, will endanger the earth. One of them probably in (the year) 2014.
--Jamesm 16:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Tyler said ...
I would really like to know the exact location and exact dates of where the catastrophies occur. Obviously through what I have read here on this site specifically and what I have read of Billy's contact reports on other sites and through what I have learned in the sciences field, I can make educated guesses... I'm not trying to add to the thought provoking fulfilment of prophesy. But as I have read, We have passed the threshold anyway so now the events are inevitable. Would it be possible for Billy to contact me personally through e-mail or publicly on this site to fill me in on more information. I completely believe everything he has said in his contact reports and cannot stop reading and investigating everything I have read on this site. I am not a skeptic, just passionately interested in his mission and all the knowledge and wisdom he openly shares.
--Tyler 21:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Jamesm said ...
Tyler, Billy will not tell anyone the exact dates as far as I know. It is forbidden to him for our benefit, not his.
--Jamesm 22:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Neckel said ...
Salome Tyler,
Some occurences what concerns the climate and man made induced "natural catastrophes" have become inevitable, but not the possibility to still weaken them if we now act accordingly to the Plejaren's and Billy's warnings...... To tell dates, has more negative effects then good ones..... F.Ex: If he would tell us the date when a big mud slide would happen, we would not learn anything as we would just make the persons leave their houses at that date and evacuate them. The mud slide would happen and everyone would continue living like before. This does not happen if no dates are made public..... then one constantly thinks on how preventing the occurence...... in advance :). This has not only the good effect that one stops only thinking for oneself, but for many others too as one does not know when and where.......... the occurence will happen.
Because all the warnings and prophecies did not bear fruit with earth humans, the Plejaren and Billy also, stopped to calculate prophecies...... Details are therefore not available anymore of the things going to happen (Where and when).......
Salome
Nicolas
--Neckel 10:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Gloria curran said ...
to me u sound like a hateful atheist w/too much time on his hands. u should live where there r other human beings. u may have actual sightings n u r adding BS about the messages they left for u. come on now get real. Ignorant people that had no beliefs r gonna fall into this new version of jones town.
--Gloria curran 21:13, 28 March 2011 (BST)
Allen Moffat said ...
Hi it is interesting to read this, my thoughts on 2012 is a new awakening in global consciousness for the coming of the new age of Aquarius and the changing galactic winter solstice. As a result of this change in age, we are also blessed, I believe, to be part of something very special in our generation when we pass though the photon belt of our central star of our galaxy which happens every 26,000 years. A change in DNA and a change in consciousness. However, I do believe that the Illuminati are planning a false flag attack on mankind to stop this process from taking place. Through my research I have come to the conclusion that this comet ELENIN that NASA conveniently released its orbital path will be the false flag catastrophe resembling a pole shift due to the so called "large celestial body" passing by Earth. How will they accomplish this you ask? HAARP. I have researched the Tesla technology and am actively progressing towards free energy for everyone, however, one of Teslas inventions was HAARP which the Illuminati now control and are planning to sink Japan into the ocean and loosen the tectonic plates causing a disaster on a global scale the likes of which we have not seen before in this incarnation. They have built underground cities all over the world for the rich elite to survive while the rest of us perish and are not able to experience the blue and white lights from our photon belt and morphing of our DNA to a 12 strand helix the way we were always supposed to function before the greys and reptoids changed our DNA since the time of Atlantis when we told them to go get F*#%^D!. The dates in question are to start in Sep 11th, 22nd, Oct 27th and Nov 22nd. My question to you is that knowing what HAARP can do and has done in relation to all of these earthquakes taking place today which is fact and can be verified by the active operation of HAARP and the Aurora lights which have appeared right before every major earthquake thus far, hence the alignment dates of ELENIN and these major earthquakes are the same, throwing people off the scent of what this weapon can do and is being used for now, which is mass genocide of 6.5 billion people. Are our galactic friends going to help us disarm this monstrous weapon of insurmountable destruction and allow this alignment to take its course for everyone on this planet, or is it up to mankind to wake up in time to stop this ourselves? I was a panic merchant when I first heard about 2012 and was petrified that myself and my whole family will die, however my quest for truth has obviously led me here and I believe that love and wisdom is truth and there is no death for our souls are immortal. I'm sorry however I don't believe in people having to stop having children for population control, because it is that unconditional love for a child which feeds the soul and has the ability to change a persons consciousness forever. I love my daughter and I wish to have another child. There is technology that exists in the universe and here on earth which has been kept from us by big oil and big energy run secret society governments for 100 years to put an end to starvation and our dependence on money, however the problem is too large now and whilst they pollute the earth with their toxins and poison mankind with their dangerous chemicals, it may be too late as Billy said to do anything about it. We need the hand of god to intervene which I believe and hope will happen so that everyone on this earth only experiences truth and love. Anyway that was quite long however quite relevant with the 2012 topic. Peace and wisdom too you.
--Allen Moffat 10:36, 1 June 2011 (BST)
Zameen said ...
Alan. before you add any more opinions/ information to THIS information, you should first go through and read A lot more of THIS information because THAT information is in complete and total contrast with THIS information. I once subscribed to THAT information once myself, and after I did my due diligence(more of an obsession, but perhaps more on that later)on THIS information, I realized that THAT information is the DISINFORMATION!!!Read on sir and be rest assured that once you get it. you will echoe this statement to the next Alan Moffat or next Shawn Bayne for that matter!! SALOME!!!
--Zameen 21:46, 1 June 2011 (BST)
Reggie said ...
Ptaah Ptaah ... Concerning the 21st of December 2012 and the entire year, you can mention some things openly, but withhold those things that you were advised to remain silent about. Billie: ....that should be kept a secret.... Ptaah: ...would foster the fear of the human beings of Earth, which should not be, however. So keep silent regarding the further explanations that we gave you. ....
Na und?: Warum nicht alle details veroffentlich? Die gletscher Islands schmelzen...Das wasser niveau im Nord-Atlantik ist um 30 meter gestiegen... Ich weiss wo Holland liegt..Am ende der Nordsee, sowie Nord-Deutschland... Ein grosser Sturmflut aus dem Nordwest und wir alle sind davon. Na Und? Lasst die Plejaren aller information aussagen die sie jetzt noch unter die deckel halten. Wieviel leute lesen sowieso diese websites? Aus 7 miljarden leute ein paar dutzend? Wenn moglich legen sie meine frage herr Meier vor bitte. Ich habe auch noch immer keine antwort auf meine emails der letzten 12 monate
--Reginald 15:28, 21 August 2011 (BST)
Reginald said ...
Ptaah Ptaah ... Concerning the 21st of December 2012 and the entire year, you can mention some things openly, but withhold those things that you were advised to remain silent about. Billie: ....that should be kept a secret.... Ptaah: ...would foster the fear of the human beings of Earth, which should not be, however. So keep silent regarding the further explanations that we gave you. ....
Na und?: Warum nicht alle details veroffentlich? Die gletscher Islands schmelzen...Das wasser niveau im Nord-Atlantik ist um 30 meter gestiegen... Ich weiss wo Holland liegt..Am ende der Nordsee, sowie Nord-Deutschland... Ein grosser Sturmflut aus dem Nordwest und wir alle sind davon. Na Und? Lasst die Plejaren aller information aussagen die sie jetzt noch unter die deckel halten. Wieviel leute lesen sowieso diese websites? Aus 7 miljarden leute ein paar dutzend? Wenn moglich legen sie meine frage herr Meier vor bitte.
--Reginald 15:29, 21 August 2011 (BST)
Reginald said ...
Ptaah Ptaah ... Concerning the 21st of December 2012 and the entire year, you can mention some things openly, but withhold those things that you were advised to remain silent about. Billie: ....that should be kept a secret.... Ptaah: ...would foster the fear of the human beings of Earth, which should not be, however. So keep silent regarding the further explanations that we gave you. ....
Na und?: Warum nicht alle details veroffentlich? Die gletscher Islands schmelzen...Das wasser niveau im Nord-Atlantik ist um 30 meter gestiegen... Ich weiss wo Holland liegt..Am ende der Nordsee, sowie Nord-Deutschland... Ein grosser Sturmflut aus dem Nordwest und wir alle sind davon. Na Und? Lasst die Plejaren aller information aussagen die sie jetzt noch unter die deckel halten. Wieviel leute lesen sowieso diese websites? Aus 7 miljarden leute ein paar dutzend? Wenn moglich legen sie meine frage herr Meier vor bitte.
--Reginald 15:30, 21 August 2011 (BST)
Markvd said ...
Sometime I think fear is neceasary in order to bring out good traits such as courage but in our case we are quite foolish as a whole so some extremely clever methods are necessary in order to build the correct human traits versus our current degenerated mass of sillyness. :)
--Markvd 21:07, 21 August 2011 (BST)
Gitacarol said ...
We are returning to Maui this year, do you think our decesion is wise. We'd rather be home and take our chances than in the middle of the havoc in NY-April,2012
--Gitacarol 19:51, 7 April 2012 (BST)
Markvd said ...
Hello Gitacarol vacation yes, permanent residence I am not so sure about islands. If the water level rises as they say due to massive ice shelves melting I would move to the highest elevated island in Hawaii and preferably one not near a volcano. :) 2012 hasn't been too bad yet in my territory just crazy weather, pink slime in ground beef, crossbred snakefish other than that it's A OK for now.
--Markvd 04:38, 8 April 2012 (BST)
well i am hope this not giong to happening on years of 12-21-21 well never giong to happening at all . that also false i am hope we will see sochi 2014 and barzil summer 2016 games this is not giong to happening
--robert 22:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)