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==Unspecified explanations==
==Unspecified explanations==
'''Grandfather Paradox''' and '''Destiny''' - ''using a beamship''
'''Grandfather Paradox''' and '''Destiny''' - ''using a beamship''
:The so-called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox Grandfather paradox (Wikipedia)], i.e. kill your own grandfather and cease to exist, paradox. That would be a depraved act by the by. Is not possible to alter according to Plejaren, it’s not possible to change the past in order to change the future, according to Plejaren it is a time-shifted dimension at that stage. Whatsmore the procession of time always continues forward, regardless of ‘going back in time’, the reality is it’s always forward in time, even if you label it ‘the past’, you’re only making ground in the future. Even if you meet say ten of your ancestors in their previous personalities, i.e. your spirit-form in it’s previous incarnations, at a special interval in time, one room together, as prepared by a dimensionally travelling civilisation such as Plejaren Federation, like Billy did<sup>Citation Needed</sup>, very special circumstances; even then it is a motion that is progressing forward in time, even if it exists already. It’s also not being rewritten which is where it gets interesting to study what Plejaren explained specifically. Apparently we were meant to do everything we were ever going to do and was meant to do, nothing more nothing less just everything we did/do/will do in future. This is where then what they explain about the ‘creative natural laws’ of consciousness and [[Consciousness Evolution]] are then accessible as a normal explanation. This is by the by how the Plejaren Federation was able to prepare [[Prediction]]s which are already ‘in time’ so to speak, alongside and mixed in with the [[Prophecy]], see [[Prophecies and Predictions]]. They were much more cautious needless to say with the direct future viewings, because it causes some folks emotional problems, they demonstrated just a small amount of it, just enough for us to study it. When [[Asket]] and her folks, see [[The Asket Contact Reports]], changed the position of ''world war 3/4'' by among various things influencing regular folks to specific strategic murder world leaders, this was calculated in a special way; they had to do it at the present time to influence the future we’re now writing, even if they could use ‘time travel’ for hindsight and research purposes before committing to the specific sequence of acts.
:The so-called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox Grandfather paradox (Wikipedia)], i.e. kill your own grandfather and cease to exist, paradox. That would be a depraved act by the by. Is not possible to alter according to Plejaren, it’s not possible to change the past in order to change the future, according to Plejaren it is a time-shifted dimension at that stage. Whatsmore the procession of time always continues forward, regardless of ‘going back in time’, the reality is it’s always forward in time, even if you label it ‘the past’, you’re only making ground in the future. Even if you meet say ten of your ancestors in their previous personalities, i.e. your spirit-form in it’s previous incarnations, at a special interval in time, one room together, as prepared by a dimensionally travelling civilisation such as Plejaren Federation, like Billy did<sup>Citation Needed</sup>, very special circumstances; even then it is a motion that is progressing forward in time, even if it exists already. It’s also not being rewritten which is where it gets interesting to study what Plejaren explained specifically. Apparently we were meant to do everything we were ever going to do and was meant to do, nothing more nothing less just everything we did/do/will do in future. This is where then what they explain about the ‘creative natural laws’ of consciousness and [[Consciousness Evolution]] are then accessible as a normal explanation. This is by the by how the Plejaren Federation was able to prepare [[Prediction]]s which are already ‘in time’ so to speak, alongside and mixed in with the [[Prophecy]], see [[Prophecies and Predictions]]. They were much more cautious needless to say with the direct future viewings, because it causes some folks emotional problems, they demonstrated just a small amount of it, just enough for us to study it. When [[Asket]] and her folks, see [[The Asket Contact Reports]], changed the position of ''world war 3/4'' by among various things influencing regular folks to specific strategic murder world leaders, now behind us was a 20th century thing, this was calculated in a special way; they had to do it at the present time to influence the future we’re now writing, even if they could use ‘time travel’ for hindsight and research purposes before committing to the specific sequence of acts i.e. they couldn’t change past to achieve it, it had to be at the moment it developed.


==Further Reading==
==Further Reading==

Revision as of 11:58, 3 November 2019

IMPORTANT NOTE
This article is not an official FIGU publication.


More images of Beamships in the Photo Gallery
Rough hand-drawn schematic of a lyrian beamship. From Wendelle Stevens book 'From Message from the Pleiades, Vol. 1'
Konrad Schutzbach measuring landing tracks from Ralas and Menaras ships.
Basic schematic of a lyrian beamship. From Wendelle Stevens book 'From Message from the Pleiades, Vol. 1'
The protruding underbelly of the aerocraft which touches the ground (if not set to hover-land), on certain UFO models, creates a diameter about this big (depending on the overall size)
A photo in the Photo-Inventarium book, see Photo Gallery.

List of mentions of Beamships

Non-exhaustive chronology. Source: contact reports.



Contact Report 001 - explanation about the possibility that Beamships may be subject to fraudulence were they openly shown to the public.

Contact Report 004 - brief explanation about how the Beamships are hurtled into Hyperspace.

Contact Report 009 - Semjase explains that Plejaren Federation Beamships are very often referred to as some kind of terrestrial aircraft, paying little more than a short fraction of a second attention to them. Earth humans are not used to any very close viewing observation. However mainly they are protected / screened against every view-ability, with some form of shield distortion screen i.e. a so-called 'cloak'. Which can be precisely adjusted to allow say a photograph from one side, but not seen from any other angle, so that no uninitiated could see it. She demonstrated that day with BEAM's group he had there.

Contact Report 037 - The Zeta Recticuli humans, 37 light years from the Earth, have 'similar' flight device technologies to that of the Plejaren Federation Beamships.

Contact Report 039 - Semjase takes Billy to a special dimension in the terrestrial space, where the crossroads of the vortex meet, inside her Beamship. There are three Earth's at that intersection; a world suspended in the future and a primeval world in the past.

Contact Report 060 - The government of Atlantis hosted an armada of Beamships. They commanded a giant fleet, 123,000 individual units of single-man-destroyers, miniature Beamships (Kleinststrahlschiffen) for close Earth combat, 16,431 eliminator units (Kleinststrahlschiffe) and 24,230 Overkill-Beamers (Overkill-Strahler), each of which required 10 men to operate, installed in the midrange-Beamships class (Mittelklasse-Strahlschiffen). To this tremendous might Mu was inferior, but that didn't make them less dangerous to the Greater Atlantians evidently, because the Mu scientists had likewise developed very dangerous weapons, even more dangerous and destructive than everything of the Atlantians taken altogether. Mu scientists destroyed Atlantis with a meteor retrieved from the asteroid belt (see Malona) which broke up in the atmosphere into several pieces, essentially resetting civilisation for all intents and purposes, and here we are today in 2024, about 11,500 years after it, a deep recovery process; big weaponry.

Contact Report 070 - Semjase explains how the refugees on Beta Centauri employed Beamships as a means to "set out to once again settle the beautiful blue world" [Earth].

Contact Report 213 - briefly mentioned that "a large Plejaren Beamship was stationed high in the atmosphere over Bethlehem."

Contact Report 215 - mentioned that a Beamship from the Reticulum systems (see Planets) crashed in the north American desert and subsequently concealed from the public by the military.

Contact Report 229 - explained that Elia was flown to Srinagar / Kashmir in India by a beamship on the 7th of April, 842 BCE.

Contact Report 251 - various styles and shapes of Beamship were discussed.

Contact Report 282 - Freddy Kropf 10th and 25th of October, 1988, and Eva Bieri 19th August 1989, took a photograph of a Plejaren Federation control disc (Kontrollscheibe).

Contact Report 311 - photos were taken by someone else of a Beamship and kindly sent to Billy and subsequently discussed with Ptaah, who remarks incidentally that "the group members need no proofs of our existence, for they know about our existence without these."

Contact Report 357 - Billy remembers a conversation he had with Werner von Braun's completely perplexed co-worker Ernst Stuhlinger inside Semjases Beamship.

Contact Report 577 - Ptaah explains that those times when they made their flying devices visible for photographic work to BEAM and also for group members in exceptional cases, they always shielded themselves from view by any other individuals, therefore only one sector of vision to their flying devices remained open to their cameras alone, likewise applying to eye contact, i.e. normal observations. Thus, for other observers, such as for the strangers to Earth or for other terrestrial human beings, the so-called 'four groupings'; other than those for which we made ourselves visible, it was never possible to see or to locate Plejaren Federation flying devices, which will continue to remain so.

Contact Report 616 - Billy shares memories of his time with Sfath, flying him over various countries of post-war ravaged Europe, allowing him to see for himself the immense and tremendous horrors of the war.

An audio recording of Beamship Sounds occurred on the 7th of July, 1980, and was subsequently analysed by various audio professionals, see Beamship Spectrogram Comparison.


Keyword Index:

Special wiki index of all Beamship related information.




FIGU Forum, Questions Answered by Billy

Source: forum.figu.org: Your Questions to Billy Meier - Answered (External)


Why are Beamships shaped like a frisbee?

Are Beamships strong? and How original and merited is the design? and Were there manufacturing ideas before manufacturing?

I have a question regarding the beamship designs, I guess the dynamics of the flight is similar to how frisbees fly in the air, but, with an advanced propulsion systems at Plejarans' disposal, aerodynamics would be hardly relevant, especially in space travel. So, my question is, why such designs? Because I'm simply not impressed at all of the "toy-like" shapes of beamships.


ANSWER: Hi,

The beamship's form existed even before the first idea for manufacturing a frisbee was glimmering in the head of a person in the last century.

According to the Plejarans this form is the most suitable for travelling through space which is not empty, by the way. There are dust particles, gases etc., and the disk-shaped form is very suitable to fix/install their propulsion system.[1]



Why are Beamships photographed behind objects?

Can proportionality be assessed? and How far from camera and nearest object? and Can a giant crane be ruled out?

Why do the Ets and billy always take pictures of the beamships near trees and others things?, that see as the ships where nailed to the trees and supported by a bean behind the ships.


ANSWER: Hi,

The main reason for pictures of the "beamships" being photographed near trees is to give the viewer a perspective as to the size of the ship.[2]



Are the Beamship sounds usually heard?

How loud is a beamship? and How are beamship sounds masked? and How were the beamship noises produced?

Are the sounds part of the propulsion systems and serve a purpose or are they a by-product and are canceled out at times for security / safety reasons?


ANSWER:

This was just done so for demonstration only. Usually, a beamship doesn't make such noise.

Semjase had to swirl her ship with tremendous speed in order to produce the sound.[3]



Will there be more Beamship photographs?

Photograph of a Druan ship (Ein Druaner-Schiff) by Freddy Kropf. Taken at the Breithorn mountain range of the Pennine Alps, on the border between Switzerland and Italy in 2001.
Gallery

Will more UFO photos be taken? and Are extraterrestrials entertaining photo opportunities? and Will the case experience evidential growth in the photographic area?

Can we look forward to many more beamship pictures in the future; in other words, will your Contact case move into a new wave of beamship photographs, either taken by you or other interested people?


ANSWER:

No, you cannot look forward to many more such pictures; there won't be a new wave of photographs of Plejaren beamships.[4]

FOM Note: The Druan are Plejaren Federation members, and may on the other hand allow their beamships to be photographed by group members should the opportunity arise for it, such as has been the case with Freddy Kropf, see Contact Report 311, and presumably individuals in isolation have seen but been unable to photograph, Et cetera.

Subsequent FOM Note question: Why only group members? and How only their cameras?
A: This is explained in Contact Report 311. This was a decision of The High Council to allow The Druan, as Plejaren Federation members, limited opportunity and to group members. Beamships have the ability to show themselves to individual's perspectives and remain concealed to all others, it is a technical calibration thing.




Other beamships and non-Plejaren Federation visitors beamships

Roswell Beamships [show/hide]

Contact Report 251 - Ptaah explains that certain details regarding these matters fall under their pledge of secrecy because they're associated with government, military and national security affairs.

Contact Report 424 summary: Roswell was not a Plejaren Federation incident. The Plejaren and the federation and all beings foreign to earth who are flying into earth's air space, including those who went on to join the federation, did not have anything to do with this incident in Roswell. During the entire last and second to last century, the 20th and the 19th century, there had been five different races foreign to earth visit, all of which joined the federation. Of those who didn't join the Plejaren Federation, there was cases where it was not possible because the Plejaren were unable to contact (primary telepathy requisite) them (FOM Note: Phoenix lights triangle, see Contact Report 556). In this new 21st century and millennium nothing has happened yet because of that reason i.e. that they joined the Plejaren Federation (except the three groups which are alien to Plejaren including future terrestrials who are unable to communicate with elementary [basic] telepathy, see Contact Report 556), and it's not to be expected to yet either, because populated planets are very far from earth (FOM Note: who are not Plejaren Federation), and of those applicable, many will never find their way to earth, even of those who are able to master space travel technology, and because mastering space travel technology is the exception rather than the rule. Regarding the Plejaren investigation, there were 427 Plejaren personnel involved in the investigation into Earth's UFO visitors, because it was of special interest to them.

Contact Report 215 summary: The Roswell UFO incident was a crashed object concerning a beamship from the Reticulum systems (not Plejaren Federation members). It is denied up to the present day and will continue to be denied well into the distant future by the American military, Secret Services and government agencies, namely with flimsy, changing, stupid, and ridiculous excuses that will only surely testify to the fact that everything actually happened. The crew did not consist of natural human life forms but of human androids of a bioorganic nature i.e. artificial human androids, which the US-Army got a hold of, some living, some dead, and these were and are secretly kept in secret stations. In Earth-human terms, these bioorganic androids bred by the Reticulum people are actual life forms. The bioorganic androids concerned are effectively artificial life forms, so not robots, but independently thinking beings, in every way self-capable of making decisions, made/composed out of living material and living organs, bred in accordance with the human beings who created them in their image/likeness who are located in the Reticulum systems. Earth humans will gain these cognition's, conceptions, understanding and knowledge relating to such android being possibilities in the more distant future. They are appreciated and treated with respect by the Reticulum people. The intelligence of these android beings stems from a bioorganic consciousness of an artificial form, which is just as capable of development as the consciousness (see Consciousness Evolution) of the normal, natural person; therefore, it can also be creative and inventive. The type of consciousness is designed uniformly and collectively in each android, which means that all of the androids have a uniform consciousness form, and so, they are collectively like-minded, and thus, a collective form of telepathic communication is owned by them. There is an authoritative programming in their artificial consciousness, which prevents the artificial beings ever rising over their designers, respectively their creators, the time of their lives is limited to 300 years (see Ageing). As such, they stand under the command of the real humans of the Reticulum systems, on whose behalf they also carry out excursions, etc. to foreign star systems and planetary systems, thus how they made it to Earth etc.


There may be a reference which we are unable to find which mentions how the crash occurred, it may have been due to testing of a new radar technology at the time, causing the beamship's navigation controls to malfunction, since then however they have adapted their beamships. Citation needed.

Terrestrial Beamships [show/hide]


Technically there is no beam-drive system in terrestrial beamships.
See Foo Fighters and references to terrestrial beamships from Earths future in the Contact Reports and section dedicated to the subject on FIGU Forum, see External Links for FIGU Forum links.

21st century: There are many nations involved secretly in UFO construction projects, including China, see Contact Report 556. The money is coming from a portion of the budget which is not declared as openly as other parts of public spending and would be very difficult to prove anything, this is common because a nations public part of e.g. the military, has to keep certain spending aspects internal anyway. It is not known whether there are nations working closely together in collaboration, or whether certain secret services have been collecting information about the UFOs of other nations. But there is quite a lot of information in the contact reports from the 21st century contacts which reveals all sorts of details, check. The reason it is all kept a secret might have been explained in a contact report too, and why continueing the space programmes with rockets has been kept going. There is probably all sorts of answers in the contact reports if you are looking for what you want to know.

(FOM Note: Rods are not aviation related, see Dimensions)

Beamships in the Contact Reports

Source: Contact Reports


Contact Report 4 (Excerpt)

Source: Contact Report 004

British English Schweizer Standarddeutsch

Billy:

Billy:
... But how does such a hyperdrive actually work, and what about the normal drive? ... Doch wie funktioniert denn eigentlich so ein Hyperantrieb, und wie verhält es sich mit dem Normalantrieb?

Semjase:

Semjase:
56. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to tell you any details about that. 56. Darüber darf ich dir leider keine Einzelheiten nennen.
57. If the Earth scientists had more specific details, then they would solve their propulsion problems in a very short time. 57. Wenn die Erdenwissenschaftler nähere Einzelheiten hätten, dann würden sie ihre Antriebsprobleme schon in kürzester Zeit gelöst haben.
58. But this is neither in our nor in the cosmic interest, because the Earth-human is still not free and not mature enough to fly around in the outer space. 58. Dies liegt aber nicht in unserem oder im kosmischen Interesse, denn noch ist der Erdenmensch nicht frei und nicht reif genug, den Weltenraum zu befliegen.
59. However, at the given time, which is not too far away any more, s/he will find the solution of her/his problem all by herself/himself. 59. Er wird aber zur gegebenen Zeit, die nicht mehr allzu fern ist, die Lösung seines Problems selbst finden.
60. I may only tell you so much that very many of your scientists are nevertheless already on the right track and are theoretically working and researching on the necessary drives. 60. Ich darf dir nur so viel verraten, dass sehr viele eurer Wissenschaftler aber bereits auf dem richtigen Wege sind und theoretisch an den erforderlichen Antrieben arbeiten und forschen.
61. I may also tell you that these also concern drives that are already known in their basic features within your initiated scientific circles as light-emission drives and as Tachyon drives. 61. Auch darf ich dir sagen, dass es sich dabei auch um Antriebe handelt, die in euren eingeweihten Wissenschaftskreisen als Licht-Emittierungs-Antrieb und als Tachyonen-Antrieb bereits in den Grundzügen bekannt sind.
62. The light-emission drive serves as normal drive and has the function of moving the beamship to planets or within their vicinity, up to 153 million kilometres of distance, so up to the safety limit. 62. Der Licht-Emittierungs-Antrieb fungiert als Normalantrieb und hat die Funktion, das Strahlschiff auf Planeten oder in ihrer Nähe bis zu 153 Millionen Kilometer Distanzen zu bewegen, also bis zur Sicherheitsgrenze.
63. Beyond that, the tachyon drive, among other things, is put into operation, if greater distances are to be bridged. 63. Darüber hinaus wird unter anderem der Tachyonen-Antrieb in Funktion gesetzt, wenn grössere Distanzen zu überbrücken sind.
64. This is one of the hyperdrives, capable of controlling hyperspace as well as space and time. 64. Dies ist einer der Hyperantriebe, die den Hyperraum sowie Raum und Zeit zu bezwingen vermögen.
65. We call these two drives by other names, but the sense remains the same. 65. Wir nennen diese beiden Antriebe bei anderen Bezeichnungen, doch der Sinn bleibt sich derselbe.
66. We have a different language than the Earth-humans, and so I have to explain it to you in the terms that you understand. 66. Wir haben eine andere Sprache als die Erdenmenschen, und so muss ich es dir in den Begriffen erklären, die du verstehst.




expected further reading: Tachyon (Wikipedia)

Contact Report 428 (Excerpt)

Source: Contact Report 428

British English Schweizer Standarddeutsch

Billy:

Billy:
Then I would like to know how many different types and forms of spaceships and beamships you Plejaren have had in operation over the last 200 years up to today and still have, in case you are able to provide information about this? And how many types and forms do your confederation allies have? Dann möchte ich gerne wissen, wieviele verschiedene Arten und Formen von Raumschiffen und Strahlschiffen ihr Plejaren in den letzten 200 Jahren bis heute in Betrieb hattet und noch habt, wenn du darüber Angaben machen kannst? Und wieviele Arten und Formen haben eure Verbündeten der Föderation?

Ptaah:

Ptaah:
38. I don't know precisely the exact number in relation to our different types and forms of spaceships and beamships, but I think there are currently altogether more than 600 different types that we have in use. 38. Die genaue Zahl in bezug auf unsere verschiedenen Arten und Formen Raumschiffe und Strahlschiffe kenne ich nicht genau, doch dürften es gegenwärtig gesamthaft mehr als 600 verschiedene Typen sein, die wir im Einsatz haben.
39. I do not know how many further types and forms were in operation during the last 200 years. 39. Wieviele Arten und Formen resp. Typen während den letzten 200 Jahren sonst noch in Betrieb waren, das ist mir unbekannt.
40. Concerning the different types and forms of spaceships and beamships that are in operation with our confederation members, I do not know any number to mention, but there are many thousands of them. 40. Bezüglich der verschiedenen Arten und Formen der Raumschiffe und Strahlschiffe, die bei unseren Föderierten in Betrieb sind, weiss ich keine Zahl zu nennen, doch sind es deren viele Tausende.

Billy:

Billy:
And – have you and your confederation members also often been cruising around in the earthly airspace with the most diverse vehicles during the last 200 years? Und – seid ihr und eure Föderierten die letzten 200 Jahre auch häufig mit den verschiedensten Vehikeln im irdischen Luftraum umhergekurvt?

Ptaah:

Ptaah:
41. Yes, with thousands of different flying machines. 41. Ja, mit Tausenden verschiedener Fluggeräte.

Billy:

Billy:
And could these also be observed by the human beings of the Earth? Und konnten diese auch von den Menschen der Erde beobachtet werden?

Ptaah:

Ptaah:
42. This possibility was of course always given and will always be given. 42. Diese Möglichkeit war über alle Zeit hinweg natürlich immer gegeben und wird auch immer gegeben sein.
43. This even though, for safety reasons, we protect ourselves better against sight at the present time. 43. Das auch, wenn wir uns zur gegenwärtigen Zeit aus Sicherheitsgründen besser gegen Sicht schützen.

Billy:

Billy:
After all, you and your confederation members have also drastically reduced the flight entries into the earthly space. Die Einflüge in den irdischen Raum habt ihr und eure Föderierten ja auch drastisch reduziert.

Ptaah:

Ptaah:
44. That is correct, since there are only a few dozen left per year – apart from the daily control flights, which of course we carry out uninterruptedly. 44. Das ist richtig, denn es sind nur noch einige Dutzend pro Jahr – abgesehen von den täglichen Kontrollflügen, die wir natürlich ununterbrochen durchführen.




expected further reading: Other Contactees

Unspecified explanations

Grandfather Paradox and Destiny - using a beamship

The so-called Grandfather paradox (Wikipedia), i.e. kill your own grandfather and cease to exist, paradox. That would be a depraved act by the by. Is not possible to alter according to Plejaren, it’s not possible to change the past in order to change the future, according to Plejaren it is a time-shifted dimension at that stage. Whatsmore the procession of time always continues forward, regardless of ‘going back in time’, the reality is it’s always forward in time, even if you label it ‘the past’, you’re only making ground in the future. Even if you meet say ten of your ancestors in their previous personalities, i.e. your spirit-form in it’s previous incarnations, at a special interval in time, one room together, as prepared by a dimensionally travelling civilisation such as Plejaren Federation, like Billy didCitation Needed, very special circumstances; even then it is a motion that is progressing forward in time, even if it exists already. It’s also not being rewritten which is where it gets interesting to study what Plejaren explained specifically. Apparently we were meant to do everything we were ever going to do and was meant to do, nothing more nothing less just everything we did/do/will do in future. This is where then what they explain about the ‘creative natural laws’ of consciousness and Consciousness Evolution are then accessible as a normal explanation. This is by the by how the Plejaren Federation was able to prepare Predictions which are already ‘in time’ so to speak, alongside and mixed in with the Prophecy, see Prophecies and Predictions. They were much more cautious needless to say with the direct future viewings, because it causes some folks emotional problems, they demonstrated just a small amount of it, just enough for us to study it. When Asket and her folks, see The Asket Contact Reports, changed the position of world war 3/4 by among various things influencing regular folks to specific strategic murder world leaders, now behind us was a 20th century thing, this was calculated in a special way; they had to do it at the present time to influence the future we’re now writing, even if they could use ‘time travel’ for hindsight and research purposes before committing to the specific sequence of acts i.e. they couldn’t change past to achieve it, it had to be at the moment it developed.

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  3. Scott Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 06:15 pm:
  4. Future_cats Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 05:46 pm: Anthony J. Alagna